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May 1st, 2012, 10:25 PM

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Is there something about "I don't care" that you don't understand?
The hospital requires you to sign off on one, so which one?





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May 1st, 2012, 10:26 PM

What difference does race or affirmative action make? Cardiologists from any background had to work extremely hard and make exceptional grades to make it. Beside that, med students are renown for entering the field primarily for the money. All you have to do is listen to them talk about what cars they are going to buy, or how big their houses are going to be to realize that the motives of most have nothing to do with caring about the sick. Of the few that do experience has shown them, with few exceptions, to have come from poor backgrounds, wanting to go back to their old neighborhoods. Personally I might lean toward the doctor who actually considers their patients more than just a few mortgage payments.





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May 1st, 2012, 10:28 PM

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Your question is irrelevant. Both have degrees, both are equally qualified, I'd go with whichever one had better credentials. No patient is going to know if their doctor was admitted to medical school because of affirmative action. The doctor themselves aren't even going to know, so once again your question is pointless.
Equally qualified does not equate to equally skilled. So which one?





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Emergency surgery. Those are the only two available. Which one?
I've had emergency surgery. I didn't get to choose.



   
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What difference does race or affirmative action make? Cardiologists from any background had to work extremely hard and make exceptional grades to make it. Beside that, med students are renown for entering the field primarily for the money. All you have to do is listen to them talk about what cars they are going to buy, or how big their houses are going to be to realize that the motives of most have nothing to do with caring about the sick. Of the few that do experience has shown them, with few exceptions, to have come from poor backgrounds, wanting to go back to their old neighborhoods. Personally I might lean toward the doctor who actually considers their patients more than just a few mortgage payments.
So you would choose...?





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I've had emergency surgery. I didn't get to choose.
This time you get to. So which one?





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May 1st, 2012, 10:33 PM

I told you, whichever one had better credentials. Race is not a credential. This is the last time I'm saying this so... ta ta





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The hospital requires you to sign off on one, so which one?
If you haven't noticed everyone else has been trying to tell you that the day of the dumb, redneck racist at TOL has passed. As is the case with most people and most organizations, they mature, and those who don't become irrelevant, end up marginalized and then are discarded.





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Who would you rather have perform your open heart surgery? A white doctor who earned his good grades, or a black Affirmative Action doctor?
Affirmative Action wasn't a model for promoting incompetence and never altered a grade, got you through med school, helped you in residency or got you any particular certification.

So the inference that the Affirmative Action entrant into med school didn't earn his grades once enrolled is erroneous. It renders the inquiry moot.





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May 1st, 2012, 10:44 PM

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The hospital requires you to sign off on one, so which one?
Don't be absurd.

If in fantasyland, it came up, I'd ask the attendant who they thought was the better Dr. If they didn't give an answer, like I'd said, I just don't care. It's many years of schooling, and how they got into school makes little difference to me. Their accomplishments though school, or as a Dr would make a difference to me. If they (or you) pressed it, I'd probably be more inclined to say I'd take the affirmative action Dr., because I know what scholarship students have to go through: as a recipient of aid, I was absolutely held to a higher level of accomplishment than full-paying-tuition students were.





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Good grief man, Hitler was a "leftist."

Walter Williams said it best, "While America's leftists, socialists and communists condemn Hitler, they give the world's most horrible murderers a pass. First, they make a false distinction between fascism, communism and socialism but more importantly, they sympathize with the socioeconomic goals of communism and socialism. The primary goal of communism and socialism is government ownership or control over the means of production. In the U.S., only a few people call for outright government ownership of the means of production. They might have learned that government ownership would mess things up. Instead, they've increasingly called for quasi-ownership through various forms of government regulation, oversight, taxation and subsidies. After all, if someone has the power to tell you how you may use your property, it's tantamount to his owing it.

I believe most Americans find the ideals and principles of socialism, communism and progressivism repugnant, but by our sanctioning greater government centralization and its control over our lives, we become their dupes or, as Lenin said, "useful idiots."




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Agreed. Anyone who 'argues' that blacks aren't actually human beings is a complete pleb and not worth bothering with. I would say that BB is possibly brainwashed but that would require a certain functioning organ in the cranium to render such possible....

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Not that either extreme are good but Hitler was not a 'leftist'. This crap has been debunked more than enough times on here DB and I'm surprised, frankly, that you're perpetuating it. How many 'liberals' do you know who advocate genocide? Killing "homos" and imposing a totalitarian regime on Western society?





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Who would you rather have perform your open heart surgery? A white doctor who earned his good grades, or a black Affirmative Action doctor?




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False dilemma. No answer is necessary.

And the racism on display in this thread is disgusting.
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