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Secret plan to create 'super-powerful EU president' - May 4th, 2012, 05:55 AM

[EU Plot to Scrap Britain] "Senior Eurocrats are secretly plotting to create a super-powerful EU president to realize their dream of abolishing Britain, we can reveal.

A covert group of EU foreign ministers has drawn up plans for merging the jobs currently done by Herman Van Rompuy, president of the European Council, and Jose Manuel Barroso, president of the European Commission.

The new bureaucrat, who would not be directly elected by voters, is set to get sweeping control over the entire EU and force member countries into ever-greater political and economic union.

Tellingly, the UK has been excluded from the confidential discussions within the shady “Berlin Group” of Europhile politicians, spearheaded by German foreign minister Guido Westerwelle.

Opponents fear the plan could create a modern-day equivalent of the European emperor envisaged by Napoleon Bonaparte or a return to the Holy Roman Empire of Charlemagne that dominated Europe in the Dark Ages.

They are concerned that David Cameron’s coalition Government is doing nothing to prevent the sinister plot. The secret talks were uncovered by Independent Labour peer Lord Stoddart of Swindon.

“This is a plot by people who want to abolish nation states and create a United States of Europe,” he said.


“The whole thing is barmy. These people are determined to achieve their final objective." EU Plot to Scrap Britain Re 13:17

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May 4th, 2012, 08:02 AM

This is just going to add to the massive debate on the EU going on here. Personally I thin the EU should stick to what it does best, promoting trade and friendly relations, as well as the other good work it does It should not be intervening in countries, destroying democracy or be used as a vehicle for a German-French domination of Europe



   
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May 4th, 2012, 08:56 AM

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"This is just going to add to the massive debate on the EU going on here. Personally I [think] the EU should stick to what it does best, promoting trade and friendly relations, as well as the other good work it does..."
Is that what they're doing? Re 13:17

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"...It should not be intervening in countries, destroying democracy or be used as a vehicle for a German-French domination of Europe..."
Germany gets the raw end of the deal.

"Pssh. Typical American arrogance that got us involved in war we never should have been in. World War Two." ~ Dwight Schrute, The Office






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May 4th, 2012, 09:10 AM

In other nutter news, a nutter is blurting out nutter stories about covert governments.

As nutters do.

ad hominem.





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Is that what they're doing? Re 13:17
well, that is what it's founding was all about. Countries promoting free trade. What do you mean by the quote?

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Germany gets the raw end of the deal.
Other countries get a much worse off deal

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what does American arrogance have to do with the EU?



   
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[Is that what they're doing? Re 13:17] "[W]ell, that is what it's founding was all about. Countries promoting free trade..."
Too bad you don't know your Bible (Re 13:17).
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"What do you mean by the quote?"
Like a Phoenix, Rome will rise again. "...Two millennia ago, Rome gave the world the ecumenical unity which the League of Nations and the United Nations organizations have sought to revive in our time. The modern attempts are not original at all (as many of our contemporaries suppose), but are revivals of the ancient Roman ideal which never since the time of Augustus Caesar has been wholly lost." Full text: World Dominion - Whose Will it Be? By J. Vernon McGee
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[Dwight being a moron] "[W]hat does American arrogance have to do with the EU?"
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In other nutter news, a nutter is blurting out nutter stories about covert governments.

As nutters do...
Trust no one.

God does what he wants with this big, blue marble we call earth (Mt 20:15). He is sovereign and you are a bug hitching a ride (Dan 4:35).

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Too bad you don't know your Bible (Re 13:17).
So you have never bought or sold anything in your entire life?


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[Re 13:17] "So you have never bought or sold anything in your entire life?"
I have bought and sold items.
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[Rome never died] "[A]hhh I see, thanks for explaining..."
I'm here to help, Whoppie Cushion.






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May 5th, 2012, 09:19 AM

...On the other hand, the story is carried in the Express newspaper.

Did you know??...
In the United Kingdom not all media is considered to be of equivalent reliability. In fact, the Daily and Sunday Express newspaper is generally considered to be highly unreliable, even by tabloid standards.
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Did you know?...In the United Kingdom not all media is considered to be of equivalent reliability.
It's the same here (no the New York Times is not a good paper-- "white Hispanic" ).






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“This is a plot by people who want to abolish nation states and create a United States of Europe,” he said.
Wait.... wasn't that originally Ronald Reagan's idea?

The difficulty they had getting the citizens of member countries to approve the EU Constitution and now the growing euro crisis means it won't happen easily. In fact, I suspect when countries begin dropping the euro and wanting to have their own currencies again that will be the end of it. The Beast-Emperor Nero's successor may have to wait.





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