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why we need more than the Bible - May 5th, 2012, 12:49 PM

God knew we would need a Church... A Church... (not 50,000 "churches")

God knew that we needed "things" not found in scirtpure... the Real Presence being paramount among those things...

wouldn't u rather be in a loved one's presence than to just receive some short letter from the person?

and wht if that letter was the ONLY one ever sent... and that letter was all you had to connect yourself w/ that loved one...

and that ONE letter written many yrs ago... you just read it over and over so as to feel as close to the person as you could?

...never got to actually BE with that person???

Therefore God gave us, through Jesus Christ, a Holy Church... and despite M. Luther and all his shenanigans... and his followers... ditto... there is only ONE Church founded by Christ



   
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May 5th, 2012, 01:02 PM

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God knew we would need a Church... A Church... (not 50,000 "churches")

God knew that we needed "things" not found in scirtpure... the Real Presence being paramount among those things...

wouldn't u rather be in a loved one's presence than to just receive some short letter from the person?

and wht if that letter was the ONLY one ever sent... and that letter was all you had to connect yourself w/ that loved one...

and that ONE letter written many yrs ago... you just read it over and over so as to feel as close to the person as you could?

...never got to actually BE with that person???

Therefore God gave us, through Jesus Christ, a Holy Church... and despite M. Luther and all his shenanigans... and his followers... ditto... there is only ONE Church founded by Christ
Yeah and it's too bad the RCC isn't it.

God's called out are one body, not one denomination.

Too bad you don't see that.

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May 5th, 2012, 01:06 PM

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God knew we would need a Church... A Church... (not 50,000 "churches")

God knew that we needed "things" not found in scirtpure... the Real Presence being paramount among those things...

wouldn't u rather be in a loved one's presence than to just receive some short letter from the person?

and wht if that letter was the ONLY one ever sent... and that letter was all you had to connect yourself w/ that loved one...

and that ONE letter written many yrs ago... you just read it over and over so as to feel as close to the person as you could?

...never got to actually BE with that person???

Therefore God gave us, through Jesus Christ, a Holy Church... and despite M. Luther and all his shenanigans... and his followers... ditto... there is only ONE Church founded by Christ
The reason that there are 50000 denominations is because there are 50000 errors in Roman Catholic doctrine. Each time some RC discovers another error, a new Non RC church springs up.

Praise the Lord!

oatmeal





"And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship and in breaking of bread and in prayers." Acts 2:42

"For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks?" Psalm 6:5

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May 5th, 2012, 02:19 PM

Whoever receives the word of God receives Him and has heard His voice. Sure through the ordinances of the Church is the power of God made manifest but don't downplay the scriptures to try and make your Church correct.



   
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wouldn't u rather be in a loved one's presence than to just receive some short letter from the person?
Can you be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works with just the scripture?





1. Land forever. Gen 17:8 (KJV)
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May 5th, 2012, 04:08 PM

I agree that we need more than the Bible.
We also need Logos (i.e. Reason or Logic)!

Luther put it this way...

"Unless I am convinced by Scripture and plain reason, my conscience is captive to the Word of God. I cannot and I will not recant anything, for to go against conscience would be neither right nor safe. God help me. Here I stand, I can do no other."

"Scripture and plain reason", as Luther put it, is the only basis on which we can properly ground true Christian doctrine and right Christian practice.

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May 14th, 2012, 11:33 AM

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The reason that there are 50000 denominations is because there are 50000 errors in Roman Catholic doctrine. Each time some RC discovers another error, a new Non RC church springs up.

Praise the Lord!

oatmeal
geez.. u seem to have no shame in showing your total ignorance of history...

but ignorance is bliss... so ignore away



   
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May 14th, 2012, 11:34 AM

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I agree that we need more than the Bible.
We also need Logos (i.e. Reason or Logic)!

Luther put it this way...

"Unless I am convinced by Scripture and plain reason, my conscience is captive to the Word of God. I cannot and I will not recant anything, for to go against conscience would be neither right nor safe. God help me. Here I stand, I can do no other."

"Scripture and plain reason", as Luther put it, is the only basis on which we can properly ground true Christian doctrine and right Christian practice.

Resting in Him,
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um yeh

but Luther was an excommunicated heretic

who may be burning in Hell right now...



   
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May 14th, 2012, 11:36 AM

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Can you be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works with just the scripture?
absolutely NOT

i have knowleedge you protestants do not have

i hve been in the Real Presence of Christ

and i have also been outside of that

u cannot say that...

one must be IN Christ in order to be "wrothy of" Heaven... (words are inadquate but whatever...[meaning the word Worthy]})



   
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May 14th, 2012, 02:16 PM

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absolutely NOT

i have knowleedge you protestants do not have

i hve been in the Real Presence of Christ

and i have also been outside of that

u cannot say that...

one must be IN Christ in order to be "wrothy of" Heaven... (words are inadquate but whatever...[meaning the word Worthy]})
Why do you believe a protestant cannot be in the "Real Presence of Christ" as you call it?



   
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absolutely NOT

i have knowleedge you protestants do not have

i hve been in the Real Presence of Christ

and i have also been outside of that

u cannot say that...

one must be IN Christ in order to be "wrothy of" Heaven... (words are inadquate but whatever...[meaning the word Worthy]})
Can you be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works with just the scripture?


"Saint Paul" says you can.





1. Land forever. Gen 17:8 (KJV)
2. City FROM heaven. Rev 21:2 (KJV)
3. Heavenly places. Eph 2:6-7(KJV)


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May 14th, 2012, 02:29 PM

God started an ekklesia... it has nothing to do with pagan Rome.



   
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May 14th, 2012, 02:30 PM

There is ONLY ONE TRUE CHRISTIAN CHURCH .

THE CHURCH OF GOD.

It is a Small Church , not a big one like the Roman Church.

Lu 12:32 Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father’s good pleasure to give you the kingdom.





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