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May 7th, 2012, 05:30 PM

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Why the 144,000 had to be SEALED ?

I think they are the good people who lived and died before Christ

Hi , and they Refused to accept the #666 is the only reason , dan p



   
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May 7th, 2012, 05:58 PM

The 144000 is the Church, and she was sealed in order not to be deceived in the day of Apostacy, which we are now living in !





Rom 2:28-29

28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:

29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
   
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The 144000 is the Church, and she was sealed in order not to be deceived in the day of Apostacy, which we are now living in !

Hi , and just where is the Greek word EKKLESIA /ASSEMBLY found in Rev 7:4-8 and in Rev 7:15 will serve God in His Temple .

WE are the Body of Christ and NOT Kings and Priests as Rev 1:6 says ,

Where is the Body of Christ in the Revelation ??

You are already DECEIVED as the scripture is spiritually diserned , dan p



   
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Hi , and just where is the Greek word EKKLESIA /ASSEMBLY found in Rev 7:4-8 and in Rev 7:15 will serve God in His Temple .

WE are the Body of Christ and NOT Kings and Priests as Rev 1:6 says ,

Where is the Body of Christ in the Revelation ??

You are are already DECEIVED as the scripture is spiritually diserned , dan p
The Church is Israel, Spiritual Israel !





Rom 2:28-29

28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:

29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
   
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May 7th, 2012, 07:19 PM

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Where is the Body of Christ in the Revelation ??

Rev 14:1

And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.





Rom 2:28-29

28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:

29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
   
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May 8th, 2012, 12:00 PM

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Rev 14:1

And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

Hi , and the Body of Christ is not in the Great tribulation as we are now at the BEMA SEAT receiving our rewards , 1 Cor 3:10-16 and Christ appeared in the OT many times and that does not means that the Body of Christ was there too !!

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May 8th, 2012, 12:08 PM

YOUR FALLECY IS A FALLACY .

LETS HAVE SOME TRUTH TO THE MATTER.

Here we have TWO WITNESSES preaching to the World via Satellite for 3.5 years.

They expound the Prophecies as the Hebrew Priests did to Alexander the Great.

He Repented and so will they.

And Especially when they see Nibiru coming toward the Earth.
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The Church is Israel, Spiritual Israel !

Hi , and just where is the verse that says, " the Church is Israel " ??

You talk , now the scripture and verse !!

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YOUR FALLECY IS A FALLACY .

LETS HAVE SOME TRUTH TO THE MATTER.

Here we have TWO WITNESSES preaching to the World via Satellite for 3.5 years.

They expound the Prophecies as the Hebrew Priests did to Alexander the Great.

He Repented and so will they.

And Especially when they see Nibiru coming toward the Earth.
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Hi , and the 2 witnessess are different from the 144,000 !!

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May 14th, 2012, 07:09 PM

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Where does it say it is not the Church ?

Hi , because the word EKKLESIA is not used , very simple and as I have pointed out the Sealing was to protect the 144,000 ,

The #666 will have no Power over them , dan p



   
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Hi , because the word EKKLESIA is not used , very simple and as I have pointed out the Sealing was to protect the 144,000 ,

The #666 will have no Power over them , dan p

The church is not always called the ekklesia, so where does it say that the 144000 here is not the Church ? The sealing is to protect the Church.


The church is sealed 2 Cor 1:22

Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts.





Rom 2:28-29

28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:

29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
   
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Hi , and just where is the verse that says, " the Church is Israel " ??

You talk , now the scripture and verse !!

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Just where in the verse does it say the Church is not Israel ?

Paul calls the Church the Israel of God here Gal 6:16

16 And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God.

He calls the Church the Seed of Abraham Gal 3:29

29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Abraham's Seed in scripture applies to Israel !





Rom 2:28-29

28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:

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May 14th, 2012, 07:38 PM

Dantheman,

The 144000 do not want the Wrath of God.

They want to escape what is coming upon the Earth.

Lu 21:26 Men’s hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAq76...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8fKu...feature=relmfu
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Dantheman,

The 144000 do not want the Wrath of God.

They want to escape what is coming upon the Earth.

Lu 21:26 Men’s hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAq76...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8fKu...feature=relmfu
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Christ has delivered them from the wrath to come ! 1 Thess 1:10

And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.





Rom 2:28-29

28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:

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May 23rd, 2012, 04:15 PM

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Dantheman,

The 144000 do not want the Wrath of God.

They want to escape what is coming upon the Earth.

Lu 21:26 Men’s hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

Hi , and this quote from Luke 21:26 -28 is a REPEAT of Matt 24:27-51 and chronicles the Second Coming of Christ and does not speak to the DEPARTURE or what many call the Rapture of the Body of Christ , dan p



   
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