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May 8th, 2012, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by genuineoriginal
In the debate we have been having, there is only one sect that has been named, and that is the Roman Catholic sect.
You don't know what a "sect" is, do you.
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May 8th, 2012, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Stuu
...or Roman Catholic cult.
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May 8th, 2012, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by genuineoriginal
Are you claiming that the Roman Catholic organization is not a "sect"?
Of course.
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If so, you are destroying every word you stated previously about the Roman Catholic organization being the denomination that Jesus established.
Hardly, since I never once suggested that in founding his historic Church, Jesus Christ was in any way establishing a "denomination."
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May 8th, 2012, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by genuineoriginal
Then you agree that the Roman Catholic organization has nothing to do with the sect that is discussed in the NJB version of the Bible?
Post your reference in the NJB where such a "sect" is discussed. (Or do you actually expect me to read the entire NJB looking for your reference?)
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Ecclesiastes 1:9 ---
The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
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May 9th, 2012, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by OMEGA
Hey Cruciform ,
Here is something Biblical YOUR Catholic Priests love to Follow as an ambassador for God ,
Eph 6:20 For which I am an ambassador
1Ti 3:7 Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without;
lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.
Ro 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
Le 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
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1 Tim 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
Seriously? Here you're merely engaging in the Equivocation Fallacy. Christianity began as a Jewish sect. Now, how does this in any way relate to the existence of tens-of-thousands of pseudo-Christian sects which have been invented since the 16th-century Protestant "reformation"? (Hint: none whatsoever.)
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"The very tradition, teaching, & faith of the Catholic Church from the beginning was preached by the Apostles & preserved by the Fathers. On this the Church was founded..." ~ St. Athanasius (4th cent.)
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May 9th, 2012, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by lifeisgood
One more:
1 Tim 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
"The very tradition, teaching, & faith of the Catholic Church from the beginning was preached by the Apostles & preserved by the Fathers. On this the Church was founded..." ~ St. Athanasius (4th cent.)
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Overcome by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of your testimony; and love not your life unto death.
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May 9th, 2012, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Cruciform
Seriously? Here you're merely engaging in the Equivocation Fallacy. Christianity began as a Jewish sect. Now, how does this in any way relate to the existence of tens-of-thousands of pseudo-Christian sects which have been invented since the 16th-century Protestant "reformation"? (Hint: none whatsoever.)
That has nothing to do with what I have been saying.
The only sect I belong to is the sect that is mentioned in the NJB version of the Bible.
Are you still claiming that the Roman Catholic has no part of that sect?
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May 9th, 2012, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by genuineoriginal
Are you still claiming that the Roman Catholic has no part of that sect?
Of course not, nor have I made such a claim. The historic Christian Church began as a sect of Judaism, had separated completely from the synogogue by the end of the 1st century, and began to be commonly referred to as "the Catholic Church" right around that time. And that is the Church of which I am a member today.
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May 9th, 2012, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Cruciform
Of course not, nor have I made such a claim. The historic Christian Church began as a sect of Judaism, had separated completely from the synogogue by the end of the 1st century, and began to be commonly referred to as "the Catholic Church" right around that time. And that is the Church of which I am a member today.
Well, you are moving closer to the truth that the Roman Catholic sect was not around in 33 CE.