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May 8th, 2012, 05:53 AM

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Sorry, but under the best of times, there have always been people put to death early, as do ABORTIONS BEFORE AND AFTER BIRTH, in which this administation supports.
Abortion isn't the same thing as organ transplants.

Different things.

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I give blood regularly, the red cells only way. - So I don't appose helping,
That's great. And as I'd said, you're free to hold onto your organs in death, rather than offering them for someone who might use them to live. I don't know anyone that would say otherwise.

But using concocted scare tactics such as "death panels," to further a political agenda isn't right.

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I just appose this garbage, and dangerous government that is being placed now!!
What "garbage" is it that you oppose regarding organ donors?





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May 8th, 2012, 06:00 AM

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Abortion isn't the same thing as organ transplants.

Different things.



That's great. And as I'd said, you're free to hold onto your organs in death, rather than offering them for someone who might use them to live. I don't know anyone that would say otherwise.

But using concocted scare tactics such as "death panels," to further a political agenda isn't right.



What "garbage" is it that you oppose regarding organ donors?


I AM “FREE” TO NOT DONATE MY ORGONS IF I CHOOSE!! – I AM ALSO FREE TO BELIEVE ANYTHING I WANT TO ABOUT ORGAN DONNING. -- YOU ARE JUST AS FREE!!
Now, - if you have any questions / “QUESTIONS” of argument about anything that I say, you are free to keep them to yourself or ask then, just as I AM!!

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...Now, - if you have any questions / “QUESTIONS” of argument about anything that I say, you are free to keep them to yourself or ask then, just as I AM!!
What do you think about free will? Do you belive in "Slaved" or "Captive" will?





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May 8th, 2012, 06:12 AM

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I AM “FREE” TO NOT DONATE MY ORGONS IF I CHOOSE!! – I AM ALSO FREE TO BELIEVE ANYTHING I WANT TO ABOUT ORGAN DONNING. -- YOU ARE JUST AS FREE!!
Now, - if you have any questions / “QUESTIONS” of argument about anything that I say, you are free to keep them to yourself or ask then, just as I AM!!

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Okay. I'm done.





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...What "garbage" is it that you oppose regarding organ donors?
I had second thoughts after reading an article in Discover magazine :http://discovermagazine.com/2012/may...g-heart-donors
Some doctors don't do the fill "Am I really dead" test and some surgeons witness donors squirming under a knife. Only a very few organs work and the rest are just thrown in the trash can. A lot of short cuts are taken for speedy delivery. They don't care if you wiggle under the knife, they just want to get the job done as fast as they can and skip the red tape.






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What do you think about free will? Do you belive in "Slaved" or "Captive" will?


One could ~say~ captured slave, if it means that we are "servants" to His will, and we rejoice in that.
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Worldly things, “IF” the Lord is your number one thing, and you love the Lord with all that is in you; --- ( and that is the obedience to Him ) you are free to practice anything that is in the GOOD, WORLDLY, without condemnation; - fishing, camping, watching movies, or anything that is considered the “going in and out to Pasture”. – HOWEVER, when it comes to the “WORSHIP” of Christ; ( and that is the action of the extreme loving Him ) which is demonstrated in you “BEING IN THE SPIRIT”. – We are not required to be in the Spirit all the time, but most of the time, as much as is in you. - But, in the Spirit, there is NO CHOICE but to hear what the Lord has said and is saying to you through the Spirit of the Word.

When it comes to what God has said, there is “NO” Choice. - Hell is not a Choice, but a fool will defy Christ and go, in spite of the Truth. – That’s how I see the Truth.

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May 8th, 2012, 07:41 AM

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ALL you wonderful, kind, and LOVING LIBERALS, now that it may look like your wonderful president just might get back in again, you can show the world who you really are!!! – With your great man back in, and you all “ORGAN DONORS”, “ HEY, - BECOME AN ORGAN DONOR”!! - You all could capture the hearts of every good and wonderful liberal and conservative in the world! - Doesn’t that sound GREAT!!! ---- DON’T PAY ANY ATTENTION TO ALL THAT - “(( DEATH PANELS ))” PROPAGANDA!! - There’s not any DEATH PANELS!!! – If you have ever noticed in Russia, you’ll hardly ever find any ~~African Americans~~ over there. - Or do they call themselves Russian African Americans!! WELL! In Africa I suppose they call themselves American African Russians!!! – OOOHHHH!! – I can’t figure this OUT!!! – NEVER MIND!!!

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If they are Russian, why would they refer to themselves as American anything at all? Why wouldn't they just call themselves African-Russians?





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If they are Russian, why would they refer to themselves as American anything at all? Why wouldn't they just call themselves African-Russians?



It’s only allowed in the U.S. – You won’t even find phony Russians in Russia. – The next time a large group of people is shown in the cities of Russia, “LOOK AND SEE”. – There are none there. Why!! ---- Who is on the welfare state for their lively hood? – Other countries cannot afford that much wasted funds, for those who will not do their part in the advancing of a country.

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OMEGA, - I’ve got you some time after you work nights. If you can give me some hours that I may find you here, I’ll be here if at all possible.

I’m not clear how you accept your thinking which is against what the LORD has said, >> Luke 12:40 KJV ---&---Matthew 24:36 KJV ------//--- Looking FORWARD to the coming as all do, there is no evidence, or anything written to even guess, the hour or day. --- However, - the Lord never said that we couldn’t count the week, or month, or the year that the coming is. - Looking BACK, - that’s a different story. We see / “SEE” what was said and what was done, then it all comes very “CLEAR”, just as He said it would. – 1 Corinthians 13:12 KJV ---&--- 2 Thessalonians 2:8 KJV --- That brightness of His coming, is the revealing of SOOO much TRUTH, that the Christians at the time couldn’t possibly miss the fulfilling of all things which is the “extreme brightness”, or the fiery flames that came out from BEFORE HIM. - That ALL is “Truth” being revealed. ---- And now WE KNOW, - as we are known.

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OMEGA, -- I AM trying to catch you, but it's hard without the "whens".

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It’s only allowed in the U.S. – You won’t even find phony Russians in Russia. – The next time a large group of people is shown in the cities of Russia, “LOOK AND SEE”. – There are none there. Why!! ---- Who is on the welfare state for their lively hood? – Other countries cannot afford that much wasted funds, for those who will not do their part in the advancing of a country.

Now take what I AM saying out of context!!

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May 8th, 2012, 08:33 AM

Letsargue,

I am still here and waiting for your response.

The Reason for knowing that the Time is near for the 2nd Coming

is for the Christian to increase his preparedness and concentrate

on his spiritual life and fruits and to more thoroughly develop the Mindset of Christ.

We as Christians know that we are NOT responsible for another man sins and

we can only do a small amount to rectify the sins of a government.

We are only Responsible for our own Spiritual development and that is what

we must Concentrate on NOW just before the End.

Eze 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die.
The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father,
neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son:
the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him,
and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

Ga 1:4 Who gave himself for our sins,
that he might deliver us from this present evil world,
according to the will of God and our Father:
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As far as Organ Donating goes, besides my organs being too old,

I think that donating organs is a good thing but there is that old story

about the Prostitute donating her heart to a Nun who subsiquently

had many Erotic thoughts afterwards. This would confirm the statement

by the Bible that states that the Life of the person is in the Blood.

Le 17:11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood:





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What exactly is the motivation of the doctors who supposedly will take organs from people who are still alive?



   
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May 8th, 2012, 08:59 AM

Chair, my jewish brother.

Maybe they want to make Gafelta Flesh. LOL.

You know that it all comes down to the Guilt of Gelt.

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In context, You're a bigot.


SO THAT'S WHAT A BIGOT IS!!!! - There's a bunch of them in here with you. What a fool a bigot is, to call someone a "BIGOT"!!!!!

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Letsargue,

I am still here and waiting for your response.

The Reason for knowing that the Time is near for the 2nd Coming

is for the Christian to increase his preparedness and concentrate

on his spiritual life and fruits and to more thoroughly develop the Mindset of Christ.

We as Christians know that we are NOT responsible for another man sins and

we can only do a small amount to rectify the sins of a government.

We are only Responsible for our own Spiritual development and that is what

we must Concentrate on NOW just before the End.

Eze 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die.
The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father,
neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son:
the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him,
and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

Ga 1:4 Who gave himself for our sins,
that he might deliver us from this present evil world,
according to the will of God and our Father:
--------------------------------

As far as Organ Donating goes, besides my organs being too old,

I think that donating organs is a good thing but there is that old story

about the Prostitute donating her heart to a Nun who subsiquently

had many Erotic thoughts afterwards. This would confirm the statement

by the Bible that states that the Life of the person is in the Blood.

Le 17:11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood:


You state that we are promised eternal life. What is that??
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OOHH, I agree as far as that goes. – I don’t really care if a foolish man goes to hell or not. It’s nothing to me, but we are supposed to at least try to convince the fool to see the Truth of the Gospel. - It’s the power and reason to save one’s self and follow the Truth / Jesus. No one can repent for another, and one must repent first.

There is no way that one can develop a mind of Christ. That comes with the inheritance. – 1 Corinthians 2:16 KJV – “WHO HATH KNOWN THE MIND OF THE LORD, that he may instruct him? But (( WE HAVE )) THE MIND OF CHRIST”. -----//--- That’s not saying what today’s christian thinks it’s saying. It’s saying that the Lord is NOT going to instruct he who hath known the mind of the Lord, BECAUSE he has the mind of Christ. – One cannot develop that, it’s given as the Holy Ghost, and is the Holy Ghost dwelling in the Angel / Saint / Christian.

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