[Gurucam]

Originally Posted by meshak

He gave His commandments for all His servants. You are distorting His word.

Jesus' commandments were given only for the dead. (i.e. the spiritually dead) Those whose hearts are waxed gross are called 'the dead', in Jesus' instruction 'let the dead bury their dead'.

The following is a long write. However I suggest that you read it totally and slowly, taking in every little point. They are all absolutely supported by KJV N.T. revelations.

Meshak, you are blaspheming scriptures, Jesus, the Spirit and Truth in one shot.

You blatantly, corruptly, boldly and Satanically deny Jesus revelation in Mathews: 13 verses: 10 to 16

It was clearly confirmed by Jesus in Mathews: 13 verses: 10 to 16 that everybody who He met and delivered to was not the same and they were not treated the same by Jesus. Everyone was not given to know the mystery of God's kingdom of heaven. His disciples were the chosen and only they were given to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. It was given by God for no one else to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. Truth = the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.

Everyone cannot be His servant of Truth. Every one cannot be His servant to deliver the mysteries of God kingdom of heaven. Because everyone was not given by God to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. This is clearly stated in Mathews: 13 verses: 10 to 16. Why would you want to blasphemy Jesus and this scriptures?

Although only a few (i.e. only Jesus disciples) were given by God to know Truth, yet Jesus delivered lot of things (which are all recorded in the KJV N.T.) to great masses of people who could not be his servants (to deliver Truth). You are quoting from those things. Those things which you are quoting are things which Jesus delivered to those who were not given to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. Those deliveries which Jesus made to the masses are not the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. You are confusing those things with Truth (i.e. the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven). And you are misguiding yourself and all who take you seriously.

God sent the Spirit of Jesus into the hearts of those under the law so that they might become adopted children of God (re. Galatians: 4 verses: 5 & 6). Jesus did not deliver the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven in physically spoken and physically written words. This cannot be done. This is confirmed unequivocally in 1 Corinthians: 2 verses: 9 to 14. Not even Jesus could have done that. Jesus could do that only through His Spirit from within our hearts or spirits. This is why God sent His Spirit there. Jesus confirmed that he had to go away physically so that the Spirit of Truth will come onto them (i.e. the chosen, His disciples) and guide them to All Truth (re. John: 16 verses: 7 and 13).

Jesus made known the path to Truth only to His disciples (once again in private among only them). He told them (just before his impending crucifixion) that, it is expedient that He physically go away, so that the Spirit of Truth (i.e. His Spirit) will come and guide them to All Truth (re. John: 16 verses: 7 and 13). Then Jesus, through Paul confirmed that things of God, i.e. Truth cannot come to one in physically spoken or physically written words (re. 1 Corinthians: 2 verses: 9 to 14). Again you blasphemy this revelation because you want to erroneously rely on the physically delivered words . . . . because you cannot get it from the Spirit. However Truth can be got only directly and intuitively from the Spirit, though your own heart.

Then Jesus confirmed through Paul that God sent the Spirit of Jesus into the hearts of those under the laws so that they might become adopted children of God (re. Galatians: 4 verses: 5 & 6). Then Jesus through Paul confirmed that, now (i.e. for the past 2000 odd years) the Lord is that Spirit (re. 2 Corinthians: 3 verse: 17).

Post here what you perceive to be Jesus' message in Mathews: 13 verses: 10 to 16. The disciples wanted to know from Jesus, why was He telling the public something different from what he was telling them in private among only them. . . . . because Jesus was doing just that. Jesus was delivering one thing to the spiritually aware (those whose hearts were not waxed gross) and another thing to 'the dead', i.e. the spiritually dead (i.e. those whose hearts were waxed gross). Which message would you want to hear and embrace? The one for the spiritually dead or the one for the spiritual aware? Well the one you are quoting, relying on and promoting, is the one for 'the dead'.

If you are seeking Truth then look to those revelations which Jesus made to only His disciples, in private to only them For example in John: 16 verses: 7 & 13 and Mark: 13 verses: 3 to 13 . . . .. They were the chosen few of that time. They were given to know Truth. Don't you want to know Truth? Don't you want to know how come they were given to know Truth? Why were they chosen? In Mathews: 13 verses: 10 to 16, Jesus told them how and why people are given to know Truth (i.e. the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven).

Why were they (or anyone) given to know Truth? They were given to know Truth because their hearts or spirit were not waxed gross, i.e. not covered over. This means to be spiritually aware (i.e. to be aware of one's own spirit or heart, i.e. to not be 'the dead' in Jesus instruction, 'let the dead bury their dead'). This is confirmed unequivocally in Mathews: 13 verses: 10 to 16. Why would that matter? It mattered because they had to search within their own hearts to discern the Spirit of Jesus which God sent there. This is revealed unequivocally in Galatians; 4 verses: 5 & 6 and Romans: 8 verses: 26 & 27. Why? Because only this Spirit guide one to All Truth from within one's own heart or spirit. This is confirmed unequivocally in John: 16 verses: 7 & 13 and 1 Corinthians: 2 verses: 9 to 14.

John: 16 verses: 7 & 13 and 1 Corinthians: 2 verses: 9 to 14 confirmed unequivocally that things of God like Truth (the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven) cannot come to one through physical hearing and physical reading. These things can come to one only intuitively and directly from the Spirit through one's own heart or spirit.

You may not like this because you have no clue what it means to have direct intuitive communion with the Spirit of Truth within your own heart. This is no reason to blasphemy scriptures generally and in particular these revelations from the KJV N.T. When you blasphemy these revelations, you blasphemy the Spirit and that is the most serious transgression . . . . . worse than All others.

Do you need more? Is your slumber so deep?

Check those revelations from the KJV N.T. (which I have quoted above) and tell me if they do not say exactly what is quoted here.

If you blasphemy you are sent to or stay with, Satan to correct your blaspheming ways (1 Timothy: 1 verse: 20). Do you want to stay with or be with, Satan? Jesus set up a Satanic church so as to sent people there for their betterment. That is, so that they will stop their blaspheming ways and so that their spirits may be saved in the day of our Lord Jesus. This is confirmed unequivocally in 1 Corinthians: 5 verse: 5 and 1 Timothy: 1 verse: 20. We know that this Satanic church was commissioned onto Peter who Jesus identified to be Satan.

Jesus' Christian church was commissioned onto Paul. This is an absolutely unseen (non physical) church. It operates through the (unseen) spirit of humans under the (unseen) Spirit of Jesus. Always has and always will.

[TruthSetsFree]

Originally Posted by Gurucam

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Jesus' commandments were given only for the dead. (i.e. the spiritually dead) Those whose hearts are waxed gross are called 'the dead', in Jesus' instruction 'let the dead bury their dead'.

The following is a long write. However I suggest that you read it totally and slowly, taking in every little point. They are all absolutely supported by KJV N.T. revelations.

Meshak, you are blaspheming scriptures, Jesus, the Spirit and Truth in one shot./COLOR]

kthis is all i felt i needed to read

you dont know anyone's heart/soul

but u sound like you think u do... geez

the only unforgivable sin is to deny Christ, knwoing that He is who He said he is... to go on living in sin after you KNOW that He is waiting for forgive... and to go on in this state until death... that is the ONLY unforgivable sin

and that is why we need a trustworthy Church to teach us what difficult scirpure psgs mean... as opposed to fallible humans like you and i who... can read any ## of things into ... any given psg or psgs....

[TruthSetsFree]

so a Catholic has the last word...

so cool...

but there are some closet catholics here...

if not, i would have gotten a HUGE argument...

hey Serpentum ... where are u??

and Patium churchhatium...

and Genuinum Spoutatium??

[Gurucam]

Originally Posted by TruthSetsFree

the only unforgivable sin is to deny Christ, knwoing that He is who He said he is... to go on living in sin after you KNOW that He is waiting for forgive... and to go on in this state until death... that is the ONLY unforgivable sin

and that is why we need a trustworthy Church to teach us what difficult scirpure psgs mean... as opposed to fallible humans like you and i who... can read any ## of things into ... any given psg or psgs....

Your claim is a Satanic made up idea.

The only unforgivable sin is well disclosed in:

Matthew 12:31-32 (KJV)

31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

Peter did not know Jesus in His Spirit. Peter knew Jesus only in his flesh.

Only Paul knew Jesus in His Spirit.

One who does not know Jesus in the Spirit will rely totally on the written scriptures and other physically delivered things. He will inevitably blasphemy the Spirit. This is Peter & Co. sad predicament.

Only those who have direct intuitive communion with the Spirit of Jesus which God sent into their heart and are led by this (and not by Jesus' physically delivered words) are without sin and have eternal life.

Those who are led by popes and priests etc., gone through.