[Robert Pate]

Originally Posted by john w

There is more to the theological world than your myopic grid.What is the big bee in the bonnet with Penty? Are you implying I might be a Calvinist because I do not agree with Penty assumptions, even though I have a sound Christology/soteriology, etc.?! If so, we are done...talk to the hand. I reminded you that Penty is is selective history, not didactic, and that there was an, incipient nature (hence, don't proof text and eisegete your view into a text or two). Penty is a minority view that is problematic. There are a variety of Penty views. I am not an expert on the numerous views and do not feel compelled to engage you like a doctoral thesis since I pointed out 'what is the point'? Iit is moot and academic as to whether there was a Benny Hinn gospel in church history. I am not going to spend hours trying to win an argument with you when you will not change your thinking anymore than will sound exegesis.It's a free country, at least here in Texas. Don't try to make me communist.

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Right John. Pentecostalism is history.

The book of acts is about the apostles taking the Gospel into the world. It is NOT for today. We have Bibles with the full account of the Gospel.

God used many various methods to get the Gospel out into the world, tongues was just one of them. Miracles confirmed that what the apostles were teaching was from God.

1 and 2 Corinthians are about Paul's problems with the Pentecostals that wanted to make their religious experience their Gospel. Paul was always trying to bring them back to the Gospel. The church at Corinth was a troubled church.

[This Charming Manc]

Originally Posted by Robert Pate

1 and 2 Corinthians are about Paul's problems with the Pentecostals that wanted to make their religious experience their Gospel. Paul was always trying to bring them back to the Gospel. The church at Corinth was a troubled church.

Really lets look at what Paul actually says;

Now about the gifts of the Spirit, brothers and sisters, I do not want you to be uninformed.

Follow the way of love and eagerly desire gifts of the Spirit, especially prophecy.

But the one who prophesies speaks to people for their strengthening, encouraging and comfort.

Anyone who speaks in a tongue edifies themselves,

the one who prophesies edifies the church

I would like every one of you to speak in tongues

but I would rather have you prophesy

Since you are eager for gifts of the Spirit, try to excel in those that build up the church.

I thank God that I speak in tongues more than all of you.

seems pretty pro pentecostal to me.

may his last verse of 1 Corinthians 14 sums up what he is saying ?

Therefore, my brothers and sisters, be eager to prophesy, and do not forbid speaking in tongues. 40 But everything should be done in a fitting and orderly way.

[Robert Pate]

Originally Posted by This Charming Manc

Really lets look at what Paul actually says;


The book of acts is not about the Holy Spirit.

The book of acts is about the Gospel and the Gospel going into the world via the apostles.

Tongues, gifts, miracles, etc, were all part of God's method to get the Gospel into the world.



















seems pretty pro pentecostal to me.

may his last verse of 1 Corinthians 14 sums up what he is saying ?