[jannie1967]

Originally Posted by meshak

I dont go to church building but my family is my church. And I also serve Jesus by having my own mission for my Lord and my family is supporting me for that.

And of course we strive to be obedient to His commandments in our lives.

As a Lutheran you know how you get forgivness of sins,? You partake in the Lords Supper, which is communion and that applies to every Christian. This is how we get forgivness of our sins.

Church is a commandment and important for us, if we truly are following God. And its great to know that you try to keep Gods commandments, as he has called us all to do . He also said they are "NOT GREVIOUS,: meaning hard to keep.

Jannie

[HisServant]

Originally Posted by jannie1967

As a Lutheran you know how you get forgivness of sins,? You partake in the Lords Supper, which is communion and that applies to every Christian. This is how we get forgivness of our sins.

Church is a commandment and important for us, if we truly are following God. And its great to know that you try to keep Gods commandments, as he has called us all to do . He also said they are "NOT GREVIOUS,: meaning hard to keep.

Jannie

There is no commandment to go to church.

The only thing that can even slightly be construed to mean that, is the command to not forsake assembling together... but that does not mean that we should go to church in any sense of the word.

Where two or more are gathered.. is the requirement.

[jannie1967]

Originally Posted by HisServant

There is no commandment to go to church.

The only thing that can even slightly be construed to mean that, is the command to not forsake assembling together... but that does not mean that we should go to church in any sense of the word.

Where two or more are gathered.. is the requirement.

What true Christian in the entire world that believes in Christ does not partake in church going.??? I never heard of it. Never.! as a protestant or a Catholic its unheard of.


if a Christian is a follower of Christ, then
only a New Testament Christian (that is, a person who is committed to believing and living in accordance with what the New Testament teaches) can really be counted as a Christian. How can you call yourself one when you are not at least sincerely trying to obey Jesus and be thought of as his follower
Well, what would Jesus himself say on the subject
“Why do you call me ‘Lord, Lord,
and not do what I tell you? ”

(Luke 6:46) In another place he said,
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.

Jannie

[jannie1967]

Jesus’ Church was built upon the apostles Peter, John, Paul, and the remaining apostles. He would not build a church only to have members scatter everywhere to their homes. If you believe that church membership is optional then you do not understand scripture.

Jesus is the body of the church


God has placed each one of us in the body of Christ as it pleases Him and not where we place ourselves. God says through Paul in Corinthians But in fact God has placed the parts in the body, every one of them, just as he wanted them to be.”

God did not place these members outside of the body nor did He intend for each member to be in single, individual homes because they can not function properly detached from one another.

[HisServant]

Originally Posted by jannie1967

What true Christian in the entire world that believes in Christ does not partake in church going.??? I never heard of it. Never.! as a protestant or a Catholic its unheard of.


if a Christian is a follower of Christ, then
only a New Testament Christian (that is, a person who is committed to believing and living in accordance with what the New Testament teaches) can really be counted as a Christian. How can you call yourself one when you are not at least sincerely trying to obey Jesus and be thought of as his follower
Well, what would Jesus himself say on the subject
“Why do you call me ‘Lord, Lord,
and not do what I tell you? ”

(Luke 6:46) In another place he said,
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.

Jannie

You evaded the question.

Where in scripture does it tell us we should go to church?

Especially when a 'church' is not a biblical concept!

It really is disturbing to me how people that go to institutional churches submit to their man made code of conduct, rather than give a person the grace to allow the Holy Spirit to work in them.

And like I have said before.. Christians should not be wasting God's money on building structures, and we shouldn't be wasting God's money on supporting the man-made class of clergy.

Paul is very clear about those who serve the Lord should work in the secular world for their own sustenance as he did, and he instructed would be preachers to follow his model.

As for me and my family, we conduct ourselves like 1st century Christians did, as well as we can determine, and as the Holy Spirit leads us.

[jannie1967]

Originally Posted by HisServant

You evaded the question.

Where in scripture does it tell us we should go to church?

Especially when a 'church' is not a biblical concept!

It really is disturbing to me how people that go to institutional churches submit to their man made code of conduct, rather than give a person the grace to allow the Holy Spirit to work in them.

And like I have said before.. Christians should not be wasting God's money on building structures, and we shouldn't be wasting God's money on supporting the man-made class of clergy.

Paul is very clear about those who serve the Lord should work in the secular world for their own sustenance as he did, and he instructed would be preachers to follow his model.

I did not evade anything, you simply refused to see it and believe it, what Christian would ever profess what you are preaching and call themselves christian, When you give up on attending church, what's at stake?, the unity of the body, your own spiritual growth, protection and blessing are all at risk when you're disconnected from the body of Christ.

Christ's body is made of many parts, yet it is still one unified entity.
1 Corinthians 12:12
The body is a unit, though it is made up of many parts; and though all its parts are many, they form one body. So it is with Christ. (NIV)

1 Corinthians 12:14-23
Now the body is not made up of one part but of many. If the foot should say, "Because I am not a hand, I do not belong to the body," it would not for that reason cease to be part of the body. And if the ear should say, "Because I am not an eye, I do not belong to the body," it would not for that reason cease to be part of the body. If the whole body were an eye, where would the sense of hearing be? If the whole body were an ear, where would the sense of smell be? But in fact God has arranged the parts in the body, every one of them, just as he wanted them to be. If they were all one part, where would the body be? As it is, there are many parts, but one body.

The eye cannot say to the hand, "I don't need you!" And the head cannot say to the feet, "I don't need you!" On the contrary, those parts of the body that seem to be weaker are indispensable, and the parts that we think are less honorable we treat with special honor. (NIV)

1 Corinthians 12:27
Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it.

Go to church if you truly love Christ and believe along with abide in and through him.

Jannie

[HisServant]

Originally Posted by jannie1967

I did not evade anything, you simply refused to see it and believe it, what Christian would ever profess what you are preaching and call themselves christian, When you give up on attending church, what's at stake?, the unity of the body, your own spiritual growth, protection and blessing are all at risk when you're disconnected from the body of Christ.

Christ's body is made of many parts, yet it is still one unified entity.
1 Corinthians 12:12
The body is a unit, though it is made up of many parts; and though all its parts are many, they form one body. So it is with Christ. (NIV)

1 Corinthians 12:14-23
Now the body is not made up of one part but of many. If the foot should say, "Because I am not a hand, I do not belong to the body," it would not for that reason cease to be part of the body. And if the ear should say, "Because I am not an eye, I do not belong to the body," it would not for that reason cease to be part of the body. If the whole body were an eye, where would the sense of hearing be? If the whole body were an ear, where would the sense of smell be? But in fact God has arranged the parts in the body, every one of them, just as he wanted them to be. If they were all one part, where would the body be? As it is, there are many parts, but one body.

The eye cannot say to the hand, "I don't need you!" And the head cannot say to the feet, "I don't need you!" On the contrary, those parts of the body that seem to be weaker are indispensable, and the parts that we think are less honorable we treat with special honor. (NIV)

1 Corinthians 12:27
Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it.

Go to church if you truly love Christ and believe along with abide in and through him.

Jannie

Nope... I meet with other Christians as the 1st century Christians did.

Why don't you?

1st century Christians had no churches to go to and they had no paid clergy! (not to mention they didn't have the New Testament either, but that is another story).

According to you, they would not be Christians

How sad!

[jannie1967]

Church is something that is required of all Christians Matt. 10:32-33) and it is where we can bring Him offerings of praise, thanks, and honor, which are pleasing to Him. The psalmist wrote, "I will declare Your name to My brethren; In the midst of the assembly I will praise You" (Psa. 22:22). People are often motivated toward church attendance for how it will bless themselves, however we should remember that the primary purpose of church is to bring service to the Lord as a blessing to Him

(Psa. 134:2). Indeed, the Lord is deserving of our time and energy to honor Him with our service of devotion. "You are worthy, O Lord, To receive glory and honor and power; For You created all things, And by Your will they exist and were created" (Rev. 4:11).

[HisServant]

Originally Posted by jannie1967

Church is something that is required of all Christians Matt. 10:32-33) and it is where we can bring Him offerings of praise, thanks, and honor, which are pleasing to Him. The psalmist wrote, "I will declare Your name to My brethren; In the midst of the assembly I will praise You" (Psa. 22:22). People are often motivated toward church attendance for how it will bless themselves, however we should remember that the primary purpose of church is to bring service to the Lord as a blessing to Him

(Psa. 134:2). Indeed, the Lord is deserving of our time and energy to honor Him with our service of devotion. "You are worthy, O Lord, To receive glory and honor and power; For You created all things, And by Your will they exist and were created" (Rev. 4:11).

Nope... you are nothing more than an Idolator.. plain and simple.

What you are describing is exactly what would have happened in a temple to Zeus Hera, or Diana... its a ROMAN INVENTION.

Matthew 10:32-33 has nothing to do with church.

[meshak]

Originally Posted by jannie1967

As a Lutheran you know how you get forgivness of sins,? You partake in the Lords Supper, which is communion and that applies to every Christian. This is how we get forgivness of our sins.

Church is a commandment and important for us, if we truly are following God. And its great to know that you try to keep Gods commandments, as he has called us all to do . He also said they are "NOT GREVIOUS,: meaning hard to keep.

Jannie

So because I dont follow RCC teachings I am a cult? Jesus did not say anything about following any institution to receive forgiveness.

I know why RCC demand to attend their church too. Without church members they cannot provide their priests. It is all about controlling gimmic, friend.

[HisServant]

Originally Posted by meshak

So because I dont follow RCC teachings I am a cult? Jesus did not say anything about following any institution to receive forgiveness.

I know why RCC demand to attend their church too. Without church members they cannot provide their priests. It is all about controlling gimmic, friend.

No, you are a cult member because you are a JW.

[meshak]

Originally Posted by HisServant

No, you are a cult member because you are a JW.

You dont honor Jesus' commandments. You have no credibility to tell anyone who is true or not.

You are giving in sin, friend.

[Cross Reference]

Originally Posted by jannie1967

Church is something that is required of all Christians Matt. 10:32-33) and it is where we can bring Him offerings of praise, thanks, and honor, which are pleasing to Him. The psalmist wrote, "I will declare Your name to My brethren; In the midst of the assembly I will praise You" (Psa. 22:22). People are often motivated toward church attendance for how it will bless themselves, however we should remember that the primary purpose of church is to bring service to the Lord as a blessing to Him

(Psa. 134:2). Indeed, the Lord is deserving of our time and energy to honor Him with our service of devotion. "You are worthy, O Lord, To receive glory and honor and power; For You created all things, And by Your will they exist and were created" (Rev. 4:11).

Absolutely!! Amen! That is NOT cult thinking __and could never be cult thinking!

That is Church as intended from the beginning..

[HisServant]

Originally Posted by meshak

You dont honor Jesus' commandments. You have no credibility to tell anyone who is true or not.

You are giving in sin, friend.

You don't even know what Jesus' commandments are and why, and people in this thread have proven it, so hearing that from you doesn't trouble me even a little bit.

[jannie1967]

Originally Posted by HisServant

You don't even know what Jesus' commandments are and why, and people in this thread have proven it, so hearing that from you doesn't trouble me even a little bit.

There are 10 commandments, go look them up copy and paste, then learn and read.


Then read biblical history , Protestants go to church, catholics, every christian in the world goes to church except you and your doctrine and we are suppose to buy what your selling, come on dude.

Please.

Jannie