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love others as u love yourself... and thank God you dont have to like them
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May 19th, 2012, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Alate_One
I don't think we are yet "post Christian". Honestly I don't think "Post Christian" is a bad thing. We are still in the phase where people think that just going to church makes you a Christian and a large proportion of the older generations think that going to church is just something you should do.
to it.
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Never be haughty to the humble; never be humble to the haughty.
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May 19th, 2012, 12:03 PM
Barbarian observes:
And they felt that Christianity was essential to a civilized nation. But at the same time, they realized establishment of religion was harmful to Christianity. And so they banned it.
Thanks for asking
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they did NOT ban religion...
They banned establishment of religion. As Jefferson and Madison put it, a wall between government and faith. Would you like me to show you?
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do u just spoutate whatever comes to your liberal, unCatholic mind?
I'm pleased that you think so of me. I would be worried if I fit your idea of a Catholic.
"Contrary to what critics imply, a Christian nation is not one in which all citizens are Christians, or the laws require everyone to adhere to Christian theology, or all leaders are Christians, or any other such superficial measurement. As Supreme Court Justice David Brewer (1837-1910) explained:
[i]n what sense can [America] be called a Christian nation? Not in the sense that Christianity is the established religion or that the people are in any manner compelled to support it. On the contrary, the Constitution specifically provides that “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.” Neither is it Christian in the sense that all its citizens are either in fact or name Christians. On the contrary, all religions have free scope within our borders. Numbers of our people profess other religions, and many reject all. Nor is it Christian in the sense that a profession of Christianity is a condition of holding office or otherwise engaging in public service, or essential to recognition either politically or socially. In fact, the government as a legal organization is independent of all religions. Nevertheless, we constantly speak of this republic as a Christian nation – in fact, as the leading Christian nation of the world. 8
So, if being a Christian nation is not based on any of the above criterion, then what makes America a Christian nation? According to Justice Brewer, America was “of all the nations in the world . . . most justly called a Christian nation” because Christianity “has so largely shaped and molded it.” 9 http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissue...s.asp?id=23909
There can be only ONE nation totally ruled by Jesus Christ by His commandments, and that Nation is the Kingdom of Christ ( Period )
America is the most UNGODLY NATION ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH!! There is no other nation “UNDER THE SUN” who kills the unborn any more; and other ungodly crimes than the United States of a Illegal-Alien!!
Paul – 051912
---Gal. 4:16.
---"Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth"???
...England had a State sponsored religion(Church of England) which is what people coming here were trying to get away from.
That's correct.
"The issue of religious freedom has played a significant role in the history of the United States and the remainder of North America. Europeans came to America to escape religious oppression and forced beliefs by such state-affiliated Christian churches as the Roman Catholic Church and the Church of England. That civil unrest fueled the desire of America’s forefathers to establish the organization of a country in which the separation of church and state, and the freedom to practice one’s faith without fear of persecution, was guaranteed. That guarantee was enshrined in the First Amendment to the Constitution (text) as, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...” Full text: History of Religion in America. Religion, 1500s-Present.
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Shouting at the world cause no one's listening...
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May 21st, 2012, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by TruthSetsFree
now our state sponsored reliigon
is this
Anything But Cahtolic
Have you ever backed up anything you've said with fact? You are delusional and I really recommend that you seek a mental health professional.
The pain comes from knowing that we have never been safe, and therefore will never be safe again. It comes from knowing we can never be so ignorant again. It comes from knowing we can never be children again. Losing innocence. Remembering heaven. That was the essence of hell. -John Jakes
Ding ding ding ding. Although I am starting to ponder what is worse, bring controled by politicians that pander to mass uneducated voting blocks or politicans that pander to corporations. While I despise insurance companies, lawyers and law firms and the legal system that makes them relavent, banks and exxon lol alot of corporations add alot of value.
There is also the issue that there is more than one way to inturprert the bible, so thus one may consider themselves a christian yet not want to be exposed to the draconian laws that a "religious" leader may impose on them.
Christs yolk is light but most "religious" leaders yolk is draconian and iron fisted.
Thats becasue some of the catholic doctrine would make peoples lives harder and more onerous (ie lack of a right to birth control and certian sex acts being made illegal, pre-marital sex becomming a crime, etc). Life is hard enough, people dont want draconian rules forced down their throats.
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Learn to do right; seek justice.
Defend the oppressed.
Take up the cause of the fatherless;
Isaiah 1:17
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May 24th, 2012, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by TruthSetsFree
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what the devil r u talking about????
its like using the term
post truth...
what, do we outgrow truth at some point????
Post Christian meaning that the majority of the population have never been in a church and have never heard the gospel.
Currently we are in a phase where the majority consider themselves Christian but most don't understand what that means.
“We do not believe in God because we need to explain this or that feature of the world. That is what science is for. We believe in God because we see something deeper in the world, something that transcends the scientific explanations.” - Karl Giberson Ph.D.
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love others as u love yourself... and thank God you dont have to like them
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May 25th, 2012, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Letsargue
There can be only ONE nation totally ruled by Jesus Christ by His commandments, and that Nation is the Kingdom of Christ ( Period )
America is the most UNGODLY NATION ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH!! There is no other nation “UNDER THE SUN” who kills the unborn any more; and other ungodly crimes than the United States of a Illegal-Alien!!
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Never be haughty to the humble; never be humble to the haughty.
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May 25th, 2012, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by TruthSetsFree
well, definitely believe in that last one...
but i think most have been to some kind of church... so called
there is only ONE Church and it is the Roman Catholic Church
Not to Catholics. We use the Biblical definition. A "Church" to a Catholic is any denomination led by a bishop through apostolic succession.
Hence, Anglicans and Eastern Orthodox denominations (and any others that retain apostolic succession) are "Churches" in the Biblical sense.
This is not to say other denominations are not Christians, or that they are not among the people of God. It merely means they no longer have apostolic succession. There is only one Catholic Church; Roman Catholics are a part of it. As much as we earnestly pray for Christian unity to be restored, it is wrong to argue otherwise.
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Being led into relationships by urgings of love which arise and are sustained naturally and spontaneously within my heart, is always 'God-righteous' even if I have to transgress the Ten Commandments.
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May 27th, 2012, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by TruthSetsFree
i say more or less NOT
but on the other hand...
most people in the US profess some kind of christian faith
and our policies are usually (?) far more chrstian than communist nations and others...
but i still am reluctant to call the USA a christian nation...
i mean, objectively speaking... it is NOT
Are you aware of who or what is Christian?
Professing to be or believing that one is, Christian does not make one Christian.
A Christian is anyone who is led into all his works, in real time, all the time, by precisely what the Spirit of Jesus has in mind for him to pray for, say and do as discerned within his own heart or spirit, in real time all the time, even if he has to transgress all ideals and laws of society, morality and religiosity (including the Ten Commandments). However Christians have to uphold the laws of the land.
Indeed the U.S.A. constitution is rooted in Truth or Christianity. Indeed the U.S.A. constitution is rooted in the most fundamental Christians ideals of absolute freedom, absolute liberty and absolute justification, i.e. once one is led by the Spirit of Jesus. And uphold the laws of the land.
However this does not change the fact that many are called to Christianity but few make it.
Therefore although the idea behind the U.S.A. constitution is anchored on the essential founding Christian ideas of absolute freedom, absolute liberty and absolute justification (i.e. when one is led by the Spirit); the citizenry are still in transformation.
To be Christians is to be on the right side (i.e. to be led intuitively by the Spirit). Only those who are actually and authentically on the right side are chosen. Only they are Christians. (re. Matthews: 25 verse: 33 & 34)
Many are still on the left side (i.e. led intellectually by their own figured out ideas or the intellectually derived ideas of others). Therefore they not Christians, i.e. they are not chosen. (re. Matthews: 25 verses: 33 & 34)
The question is how many in the U.S.A. are still on the left side and therefore not yet Christian.
How many know that the U.S.A. constitution is founded on this Christians principle of 'the right side of God' and 'the left side of God' as mentioned in Matthews: 25 verses: 33 & 34?
The question is are the ideals of the U.S.A. constitution appropriate for the majority of their population?
Or will the kingdom of God be taken from them and given to those actually bringing forth fruits onto God?
To be on the right side is to be led by one's right side brain.
To be on the left side is to be led by one's left side brain.
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