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"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money" - Margaret Thatcher
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May 24th, 2012, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Quincy
I believe Jesus himself said there would be plenty who call on his name that he will turn away. Baffles my mind how some can be so assured that they will actually tell someone else they are going to hell.
He didn't say that those that weren't saved that called on his name had assurance, like I do.
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May 25th, 2012, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by I aint no monkey
What is my agenda?
Trying to convince others that your distorted views of reality are accurate. Because you lack the courage to actually investigate reality thoroughly for yourself.
It's called campaigning, and it is a sure sign of a weak character.
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Fire proceeds from his mouth and he devours his enemies (Re 11:5).
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May 25th, 2012, 09:33 AM
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I have confidence and assurance of salvation and that I will not go to Hell and no other religion or faith gives that, only salvation through Yeshua does.
By design. God coulda, but didn't. There is no assurance except through Christ and that validates that there is no other way.
Back to my former posts. A God who is infinite and whose love and wisdom is infinite could provide many options for his offspring spread thru-out worlds without number, recognizing there are universal laws, principles, patterns and movements which coordinate all things allowing for diversity, versatility, difference, etc. Of course 'God' is the source of all that is, so all movements flow from that original motive and are fulfilled by its completion.
Love is the way, no matter how that love chooses to express or manifest itself, in substance or form.
Picking and choosing scripture isn't going to cut it.
Yet who is exempt from doing so? - all 'interpret' from their 'point of view'.
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You will need to take all scripture into account and not take it out of context as satan did when he quoted it to Jesus.
Ah, that ole culprit 'satan', gotta watch out for him
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I'm sorry but you will have to keep worrying about going to hell if you don't accept Jesus as substitutionary atonement.
Many live worry-free without a belief in Jesus or concept of 'hell'. Also, dont forget,...there are other ways to look at the concept of 'atonement'. - not all 'formats' include the necessity of blood having to be shed.
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"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money" - Margaret Thatcher
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May 25th, 2012, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by freelight
Back to my former posts. A God who is infinite and whose love and wisdom is infinite could provide many options for his offspring spread thru-out worlds without number, recognizing there are universal laws, principles, patterns and movements which coordinate all things allowing for diversity, versatility, difference, etc. Of course 'God' is the source of all that is, so all movements flow from that original motive and are fulfilled by its completion.
Love is the way, no matter how that love chooses to express or manifest itself, in substance or form.
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If you recognize laws and principles, then you should recoginize God's Holiness and aversion to sin. The reality that we live in, where we die and get judged and then get sent to Heaven or Hell is based on who God is and his character that cannot be changed.
The reason that the shedding of blood for the remission of sin is required is because of who God is. And it is obvious from your consornment of answers and guessing of what can or might be, you do not know God personally. Start worrying my friend.
If you recognize laws and principles, then you should recoginize God's Holiness and aversion to sin. The reality that we live in, where we die and get judged and then get sent to Heaven or Hell is based on who God is and his character that cannot be changed.
I think God has many mansions in the spirit-world and the higher dimensions beyond this one, and souls-spirits go to those habitations that match their soul development, and appropriately so....since souls are engaged in an educational system of 'eternal progression'.
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The reason that the shedding of blood for the remission of sin is required is because of who God is.
My former thread amply challenges the 'assumption' that God is after 'blood' or that 'blood' in and of itself has any power whatsoever, beyond what one assigns it. Remember 'symbols' and 'metaphor'.
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And it is obvious from your consornment of answers and guessing of what can or might be, you do not know God personally.
My considerations are subject to open inspection and research, just as yours are. They stand on their own merit, in essence and context. That these viewpoints ascertain whether one knows 'God' personally or not, may not be very reliable 'markers' whether knows 'God' or not,....and 'personally' at that.
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Start worrying my friend.
I have nothing to worry about. Remember Jesus said, "take no thought for the morrow, for each day has its own troubles"...in other words,....take it one day ata time. Life has within it its own potential and possibilities, latent within each moment.
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May 25th, 2012, 12:25 PM
- all 'interpret' from their 'point of view'.
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