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May 24th, 2012, 11:44 AM

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So then a saved person is not a saint? If not, when is he__ in your estimation that is?
Yes, a Saved person is a Saint, any person Christ died for is a saint, any person God elected in Christ is a Saint ! The elect are always saints from the aspect of always have been set apart by God. When they are born again then they are manifested as saints !





Rom 2:28-29

28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:

29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
   
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May 24th, 2012, 11:50 AM

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Yes, a Saved person is a Saint, any person Christ died for is a saint, any person God elected in Christ is a Saint ! The elect are always saints from the aspect of always have been set apart by God. When they are born again then they are manifested as saints !
Christ died for all. All have been redeemed. Salvation for anyone is another issue. That's good bible.



   
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May 24th, 2012, 01:50 PM

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we are all sinners
and
no one is saved
but
we all have been redeemed
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now you can be saved
if
you do what is right
Your statement is contradictory.

Sinners cannot do what is right. Thats why they are sinners.



   
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May 24th, 2012, 04:51 PM

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Your statement is contradictory.

Sinners cannot do what is right. Thats why they are sinners.
By that definition, Adam was a sinner and proved it.



   
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May 25th, 2012, 12:27 PM

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Christ died for all. All have been redeemed. Salvation for anyone is another issue. That's good bible.
These are lies !





Rom 2:28-29

28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:

29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
   
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May 25th, 2012, 12:36 PM

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These are lies !
See what I mean? You don't have a clue.That is why you are all over the map with everything else..



   
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May 25th, 2012, 11:39 PM

I will never stop needing Jesus, despite the fact that He has already saved me once and for all.





If to die isn't gain you're living in vain.
   
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May 26th, 2012, 03:22 AM

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I will never stop needing Jesus, despite the fact that He has already saved me once and for all.
Light, I don't believe it is so much to be about needing Him but rather, more about being in union with Him and the Father per John 17. With this understanding comes the realization that we are to become as He is. This also I believe the entering the Kingdom of God is to be about__Not salvation but becoming, after salvation.



   
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Salvation is not finalized till the judgement. After all, what are we saved from save the judgement of our own sins? We have freewill and we don't lose it when we become Christians; if anything scripture upholds the idea that we are more free.
Isn't that a contradiction? if we are saved from judgement then how is our salvation not finalized?

But we are already judged, God has said we are sinners and must die, we sadly had to agree with His verdict...then He showed us the Saviour.

Oh happy day, oh happy day
when Jesus washed my sins away
He taught me how to watch and pray
and live rejoicing every day

Hallelujah happy day.

Now some people do not agree with God's verdict, they point to their religion, or they try to amend their own lives.....best to be like Peter and throw ourselves upon the Lord with a shriek "Lord save I perish"

And He did, and He will.



   
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