John 17:3 calling the Father "THE ONLY TRUE GOD" leaves only 3 options...
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Slogan/motto:
“You do not bring the Name of יהוה (Yahuweh) your Elohim to naught, for יהוה (Yahuweh) does not leave the one unpunished who brings His Name to naught."
It's the NAME.....We say God and Jesus, but that's only the name the Bible translators used. The Scripture I've memorized, and the songs I love all have the name of Jesus, but when He returns I don't believe that's what we'll be calling Him. What say you about the NAME?
Acts 4:12
Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
It made perfect sense to me. They did it like I would, except I can't put it on a site like that. They traced it back, and you can prove what they did is correct, with your lexicons and concordances. Tell me what it says to you Shabbat Shalom, May Yah bless you and your house. In Yahu'Shua's Name! Amein
And here is another site, short but sweet, no where near as informative, but just so you can see at least one of the "few" that find itDid YOU Know? The letter "J" is only 500 years old? (first time I ran across that one)
And here is a Bible with His Name in it, where it is supposed to be! And it is sold at cost, not in stores (hard copies), or, is free as a module for the e-Sword program. It is called The Scriptures.
I would recommend getting the "Word Study Encyclopedia" installed in it though. It has a cost I think, but I have found it has way more information than the Strongs, but is a great addition. They also have many various commentaries also. I glance at them once in a while, lol. It is always good to see where others have been who were trying, I just always remember that they are never "The Word"...Yahu'Shua is.
Addendum: I went to the e-sword site to check it out as I haven't been there for quite a while, and it has changed. Much of what was free is no longer free. When they lost their tax exempt status due to the "Pension Protection Act" of 2006, donations went down apparently and they had to merge with another group. Seems much is for sale now. But at least the program itself is free and it comes with the KJV and Strongs.
After a search, I did find a module of the "Complete Word Study Dictionary", at a cost, here
I wish I could be of more help, but seems things are going down the drink fast. I kept the Version 7 of e-sword, and put all the module on disc a long time ago. Apparently before 2006 Curious, I kept #7???) Never had an incling to download the upgrades, I was and am happy with what I got first And now I reckon I know why. Do what you can, and if you can't find something and I can help, I will.
BTW...After rereading that since they followed through with "Yeshua", I choose now to only utilize the Name Yahu'Shua. Except to speak to those who don't know yet, but the first thing on the speak list is to straighten them out about His Name. To me, it is the only way to move forwards. I too want to be sure, and also to give the proper respect due to my King, and My Elohim. Exodus 20:7...Exo 20:7 “You do not bring the Name of יהוה your Elohim to naught, for יהוה does not leave the one unpunished who brings His Name to naught."
The Father's Name is Yahuweh, or Yah, as King David tells us, and His Son's Name is Yahu'Shua. I will stand strong by that! Halle lu Yah! "Yah Saves!" Amein
YeshaYahu (Isaiah) 8:20: To the Torah and to the witness! If they do not speak according to this Word, it is because they have no daybreak.
1st Kepha (Peter) 4:11: If anyone speaks, let it be as the Words of Elohim. If anyone serves, let it be as with the strength which Elohim provides, so that Elohim might be praised in it all through יהושע (Yahu'Shua) Messiah, to whom belong the esteem and the rule forever and ever. Amĕn.
Last edited by YahuShuan; May 27th, 2012 at 06:24 AM.
Slogan/motto:
Ecclesiastes 1:9 ---
The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
Reputation:
June 1st, 2012, 09:44 AM
This is the way I read
1 John 5:20 — And we know that the Son of God is come, and [the Son of God]
has given us an understanding
[what understanding?],
that we may know Him Who is true, and we are in Him Who is true, in his Son Jesus Christ
[How we may know Him Who is true, and we are in Him Who is true, in his Son Jesus Christ?] [by virtue of being baptized in Jesus' death (Romans 6:3-5)].
This is the True God [Jesus Christ], and Eternal Life (what happened on the Cross guarantees eternal life.).
It made perfect sense to me. They did it like I would, except I can't put it on a site like that. They traced it back, and you can prove what they did is correct, with your lexicons and concordances. Tell me what it says to you Shabbat Shalom, May Yah bless you and your house. In Yahu'Shua's Name! Amein
And here is another site, short but sweet, no where near as informative, but just so you can see at least one of the "few" that find itDid YOU Know? The letter "J" is only 500 years old? (first time I ran across that one)
And here is a Bible with His Name in it, where it is supposed to be! And it is sold at cost, not in stores (hard copies), or, is free as a module for the e-Sword program. It is called The Scriptures.
I would recommend getting the "Word Study Encyclopedia" installed in it though. It has a cost I think, but I have found it has way more information than the Strongs, but is a great addition. They also have many various commentaries also. I glance at them once in a while, lol. It is always good to see where others have been who were trying, I just always remember that they are never "The Word"...Yahu'Shua is.
Addendum: I went to the e-sword site to check it out as I haven't been there for quite a while, and it has changed. Much of what was free is no longer free. When they lost their tax exempt status due to the "Pension Protection Act" of 2006, donations went down apparently and they had to merge with another group. Seems much is for sale now. But at least the program itself is free and it comes with the KJV and Strongs.
After a search, I did find a module of the "Complete Word Study Dictionary", at a cost, here
I wish I could be of more help, but seems things are going down the drink fast. I kept the Version 7 of e-sword, and put all the module on disc a long time ago. Apparently before 2006 Curious, I kept #7???) Never had an incling to download the upgrades, I was and am happy with what I got first And now I reckon I know why. Do what you can, and if you can't find something and I can help, I will.
BTW...After rereading that since they followed through with "Yeshua", I choose now to only utilize the Name Yahu'Shua. Except to speak to those who don't know yet, but the first thing on the speak list is to straighten them out about His Name. To me, it is the only way to move forwards. I too want to be sure, and also to give the proper respect due to my King, and My Elohim. Exodus 20:7...Exo 20:7 “You do not bring the Name of יהוה your Elohim to naught, for יהוה does not leave the one unpunished who brings His Name to naught."
The Father's Name is Yahuweh, or Yah, as King David tells us, and His Son's Name is Yahu'Shua. I will stand strong by that! Halle lu Yah! "Yah Saves!" Amein
You yet stand strong in the LIE! For in ancient Hebrew there was no letter "W"! And "yahuweh & yahweh' have their portion with 'jesus' and 'christ' in The LIE as well!
YHVH IS The Father and Elohim of The Messiah and His brethren, those "sons of EL" who have experienced The Miracle that is receiving "a love of The TRUTH"!
................"religion" is anti-messiah................
"Come out from among them and be separate!"
..............For The Faithful ARE Family..............
This is the way I read
1 John 5:20 — And we know that the Son of God is come, and [the Son of God]
has given us an understanding
[what understanding?],
that we may know Him Who is true, and we are in Him Who is true, in his Son Jesus Christ
[How we may know Him Who is true, and we are in Him Who is true, in his Son Jesus Christ?] [by virtue of being baptized in Jesus' death (Romans 6:3-5)].
This is the True God [Jesus Christ], and Eternal Life (what happened on the Cross guarantees eternal life.).
But pagan catholic/christian doctrinal folklore!
The Messiah testified, "GOD IS A SPIRIT" and then The Messiah testified, "A SPIRIT does not have flesh and bones as you see I have"!
................"religion" is anti-messiah................
"Come out from among them and be separate!"
..............For The Faithful ARE Family..............
The narrative says that they were angels and at least one of them was called God. The argument that God could not become human because He is spirit is no good. He appeared to Moses as a fire within a bush. He is all powerful.
But a spirit can assume flesh and bones. Three spirits appeared to Abraham in human form.
Read your Bible before spouting off please.
Sadly ;-( you are the one spouting off!
"Appeared" and "form" apparently flew over your head )-;
Yet while breath is, HOPE IS!
For TRUTH IS!
................"religion" is anti-messiah................
"Come out from among them and be separate!"
..............For The Faithful ARE Family..............
Slogan/motto:
“You do not bring the Name of יהוה (Yahuweh) your Elohim to naught, for יהוה (Yahuweh) does not leave the one unpunished who brings His Name to naught."
You yet stand strong in the LIE! For in ancient Hebrew there was no letter "W"! And "yahuweh & yahweh' have their portion with 'jesus' and 'christ' in The LIE as well!
YHVH IS The Father and Elohim of The Messiah and His brethren, those "sons of EL" who have experienced The Miracle that is receiving "a love of The TRUTH"!
Like I said...READ THE WHOLE THING. And you will find it is you who lie. But I won't condemn you for your lack of knowledge, nor wisdom.
Why don't you take a deep breath and quit condemning other for being where you once were. Try to help them to understand things, and look into your own mirror, because you got a lot of beams in your own eyes that prevent others from seeing any truth whatsoever you are trying to convey. YOU are still wrong. No better than anyone else. Just like me. So if I'm condemned, then so are you...for we pray "Father forgive US, as WE forgive others". So keep it up, and you indeed will be forgiven, just as you forgive others. You make mistakes to this very day, and you can't read another's heart unless they have so stated that they are non-believers, YOU then, are the one wrong. And if you can not forgive others making mistakes, then neither will you be forgiven for yours. Just keep trying, don't send others backwards with your own backwardity. Humble your own self, for you are no King! I serve only One, and oh Yes! His Name is Yahu'Shua.
From this page: "Now let's look a little more deeply into this name Jehovah. Notice that many Hebrew names contain the first part of Yahweh's name which is Yah. This is true in the name Isa-YAH (Hebrew: YeshaYAH), which means "Yah is Salvation". Also in Jeremi-Yah (Hebrew: YermeYAH), Obadiah, Zechariah, and so on. Taking this knowledge, apply this to the name Je-hovah with Jeh being the first part of His name. First of all it doesn't add up when it comes to the names of these prophets. (Isaiah's name isn't IsaJEH) Second, the Hovah part of Je-hovah means RUIN and MISCHIEF in Hebrew according to Strong's Concordance #1943 Hovah, another form for 1942; RUIN:-MISCHIEF "
Anyone in their right mind would not agree with the "v" which makes the name say what the lexicon says it would say if you were so right...Study to show yourself approved, and add 2+2 it still equals 4."
And it is King David who said Elohim's Name is "YAH" over 40 times, which makes pronunciation easy for even the smallest Child. Don't slap a child in their mouth when they are TRYING to learn or speak His Name! It will be you who will be seen as "beating the servants" when HE returns. And worse, beating His Children. Teach them Torah, with love for them, otherwise you are showing yourself to be a hate filled whore. Today is a day to speak peace, so, Shabbat Shalom.
YeshaYahu (Isaiah) 8:20: To the Torah and to the witness! If they do not speak according to this Word, it is because they have no daybreak.
1st Kepha (Peter) 4:11: If anyone speaks, let it be as the Words of Elohim. If anyone serves, let it be as with the strength which Elohim provides, so that Elohim might be praised in it all through יהושע (Yahu'Shua) Messiah, to whom belong the esteem and the rule forever and ever. Amĕn.
Like I said...READ THE WHOLE THING. And you will find it is you who lie. But I won't condemn you for your lack of knowledge, nor wisdom.
Why don't you take a deep breath and quit condemning other for being where you once were. Try to help them to understand things, and look into your own mirror, because you got a lot of beams in your own eyes that prevent others from seeing any truth whatsoever you are trying to convey. YOU are still wrong. No better than anyone else. Just like me. So if I'm condemned, then so are you...for we pray "Father forgive US, as WE forgive others". So keep it up, and you indeed will be forgiven, just as you forgive others. You make mistakes to this very day, and you can't read another's heart unless they have so stated that they are non-believers, YOU then, are the one wrong. And if you can not forgive others making mistakes, then neither will you be forgiven for yours. Just keep trying, don't send others backwards with your own backwardity. Humble your own self, for you are no King! I serve only One, and oh Yes! His Name is Yahu'Shua.
From this page: "Now let's look a little more deeply into this name Jehovah. Notice that many Hebrew names contain the first part of Yahweh's name which is Yah. This is true in the name Isa-YAH (Hebrew: YeshaYAH), which means "Yah is Salvation". Also in Jeremi-Yah (Hebrew: YermeYAH), Obadiah, Zechariah, and so on. Taking this knowledge, apply this to the name Je-hovah with Jeh being the first part of His name. First of all it doesn't add up when it comes to the names of these prophets. (Isaiah's name isn't IsaJEH) Second, the Hovah part of Je-hovah means RUIN and MISCHIEF in Hebrew according to Strong's Concordance #1943 Hovah, another form for 1942; RUIN:-MISCHIEF "
Anyone in their right mind would not agree with the "v" which makes the name say what the lexicon says it would say if you were so right...Study to show yourself approved, and add 2+2 it still equals 4."
And it is King David who said Elohim's Name is "YAH" over 40 times, which makes pronunciation easy for even the smallest Child. Don't slap a child in their mouth when they are TRYING to learn or speak His Name! It will be you who will be seen as "beating the servants" when HE returns. And worse, beating His Children. Teach them Torah, with love for them, otherwise you are showing yourself to be a hate filled whore. Today is a day to speak peace, so, Shabbat Shalom.
EVERY DAY IS THE DAY TO SPEAK THE TRUTH!
And especially so in these times when "evil is called good, and good, evil"!
YAH IS! as for "vah" or "weh", confusion is.......
There are multiple references seeking to prove(?) both views!
Yet, thankfully there is no name, no title, no descriptor greater than OUR FATHER!
Hope is that one day you would "see" that you speak with, and now exhort me to speak with, GUILE )-; Those who with "good words and fair speech seek to deceive the hearts of the simple"!
Massage the words, make them palatable, soothing, acceptable to the religious ones, for it seems you yourself yet remain captivated by religion )-;
And for whom was religion needful?
"Disobedient and gainsaying people" who were "stiff-necked and uncircumcised of heart and ears" and would rather a man, than GOD, speak to and rule over them!
So it is you choose to remain a disciple of that which was "decaying and waxing old" and DID "vanish away" with the destruction of the earthly, natural, temporal realm centered in old jerusalem )-;
Simply, hope is you would receive a right understanding of James 1:27 for all other religion is "IMPURE AND DEFILED"!
There is but One Teacher and so it is that the brethren of The Messiah are to "share that which we have seen(experienced) and heard(received)"!
And continue to resound The Call of Our Father and GOD to:
"Come Out of her(babel/confusion/babylon\world\religion), MY people!"
And HOPE IS! there would be those who heed The Call!
For TRUTH IS! religion is for "the disobedient and gainsaying(greedy, covetous)" and "the WHOLE(not just a portion) world is under the control of the evil one"!
................"religion" is anti-messiah................
"Come out from among them and be separate!"
..............For The Faithful ARE Family..............
Like I said...READ THE WHOLE THING. And you will find it is you who lie. But I won't condemn you for your lack of knowledge, nor wisdom.
Why don't you take a deep breath and quit condemning other for being where you once were. Try to help them to understand things, and look into your own mirror, because you got a lot of beams in your own eyes that prevent others from seeing any truth whatsoever you are trying to convey. YOU are still wrong. No better than anyone else. Just like me. So if I'm condemned, then so are you...for we pray "Father forgive US, as WE forgive others". So keep it up, and you indeed will be forgiven, just as you forgive others. You make mistakes to this very day, and you can't read another's heart unless they have so stated that they are non-believers, YOU then, are the one wrong. And if you can not forgive others making mistakes, then neither will you be forgiven for yours. Just keep trying, don't send others backwards with your own backwardity. Humble your own self, for you are no King! I serve only One, and oh Yes! His Name is Yahu'Shua.
From this page: "Now let's look a little more deeply into this name Jehovah. Notice that many Hebrew names contain the first part of Yahweh's name which is Yah. This is true in the name Isa-YAH (Hebrew: YeshaYAH), which means "Yah is Salvation". Also in Jeremi-Yah (Hebrew: YermeYAH), Obadiah, Zechariah, and so on. Taking this knowledge, apply this to the name Je-hovah with Jeh being the first part of His name. First of all it doesn't add up when it comes to the names of these prophets. (Isaiah's name isn't IsaJEH) Second, the Hovah part of Je-hovah means RUIN and MISCHIEF in Hebrew according to Strong's Concordance #1943 Hovah, another form for 1942; RUIN:-MISCHIEF "
Anyone in their right mind would not agree with the "v" which makes the name say what the lexicon says it would say if you were so right...Study to show yourself approved, and add 2+2 it still equals 4."
And it is King David who said Elohim's Name is "YAH" over 40 times, which makes pronunciation easy for even the smallest Child. Don't slap a child in their mouth when they are TRYING to learn or speak His Name! It will be you who will be seen as "beating the servants" when HE returns. And worse, beating His Children. Teach them Torah, with love for them, otherwise you are showing yourself to be a hate filled whore. Today is a day to speak peace, so, Shabbat Shalom.
Shabbat Shalom, May Yah bless you and your house. In Yahu'Shua's Name! Amein
Curious, I kept #7???) Never had an incling to download the upgrades, I was and am happy with what I got first
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