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Pray, Hope, and dont worry" Saint Pio
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May 25th, 2012, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ICameBack
Sure, let's look at what Christ said about me not loosing my Salvation once granted
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. I and the Father are one.”
(John 10:27-30 ESV)
What else has Christ said, give me some consequences if we do not follow him or abide in him....
Try it NT, every book, commandment keeping, going to church , communion.
Faith is an action dear sir. you cant have faith without good deeds it dont work that way.
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Ephesians 3:9: "And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:"
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May 25th, 2012, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by jannie1967
you cant have faith without good deeds it dont work that way.
Christ promised you eternal life in heaven IF, IF IF, you obey and abide in him, which includes keeping his commandments, going to church and partaking in communion, how many hunderds of verses do you need from Christ himself to see that. Are you blind. I was a Lutheran half of my adult life, we always professed Christ teachings.
You belong to a cult and do not understand the true risen Christ
and the consequences for his believers if we do NOT remain Faithful till he comes again. Faith is an action, Faith and good deeds go hand in hand.
If you love me you keep my commandments. Jesus
Hi , and with me time is of the essence , and your words and verses are mainly wrong , by just one word CONTEXT and the bible is spiritually DISCERNED , which discernment you are not displaying .
Most of those verse by CONREXT were written to JEWS , WHICH YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND , until you do Rom 10:9 , dan p
Gods laws are his commandments, we are suppose to Keep them.
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Very well, let us see if the Catholic Church Keeps the Commandments.
1. ONE: 'You shall have no other gods before Me.'
Jannie , do you ever Pray to Mary ?
TWO: 'You shall not make for yourself a carved image .
Jannie, do you have a Statue or Picture of Mary or Jesus ?
THREE: 'You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.'
Jannie, Do you say " Oh My God" or Gee or Gosh etc.
FOUR: 'Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.'
Jannie, do you keep Saturday , which is the Sabbath as God says in the Bible.
FIVE: 'Honor your father and your mother.'
Jannie, Have you ever disobeyed or said a bad word to your parent.
SIX: 'You shall not murder.'
Jannie, do you call people names like Moron etc. ?
Matthew 5:21 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother is in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
SEVEN: 'You shall not commit adultery.'
Mt 5:27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
Mt 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a person to lust after them hath committed adultery already in his heart.
EIGHT: 'You shall not steal.'
Jannie , have you ever taken anything that you should not have taken ?
NINE: 'You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.'
Jannie, have you ever LIED to anyone ????
TEN: 'You shall not covet your neighbor's house;
you shall not covet anything that is your neighbor's.'
Jannie, have you ever been envious of what a another person has ?
Im going to Hell for: Partaking in Holy Communion.
And all of them are going to Heaven for denying all of the above and teaching this to others. WOW...
This is what most of them on here are preaching and teaching to deny Jesus words, in the NT of any bible in the world by misinterpreting Paul and twisting and distorting the Lords words as a way for them to live by.
Beware of these false teachers
I'm OSAS and I don't think you're going to Hell for any of those reasons. I also don't think that you're going to Heaven for any of them either. Those who go to Heaven do so because they trusted in the one who knew no sin and was made sin for us so that we might become the very righteousness of God in Him. And those who go to Hell do so because they didn't trust in Him. John 3:16-18.
I'm OSAS and I don't think you're going to Hell for any of those reasons. I also don't think that you're going to Heaven for any of them either. Those who go to Heaven do so because they trusted in the one who knew no sin and was made sin for us so that we might become the very righteousness of God in Him. And those who go to Hell do so because they didn't trust in Him. John 3:16-18.
As with movies, when we agree we tend to agree top to bottom.
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love others as u love yourself... and thank God you dont have to like them
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May 26th, 2012, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Lighthouse
I'm OSAS and I don't think you're going to Hell for any of those reasons. I also don't think that you're going to Heaven for any of them either. Those who go to Heaven do so because they trusted in the one who knew no sin and was made sin for us so that we might become the very righteousness of God in Him.
which excludes Catholics, right? geez... Can't u see the lunacy of this "argument"????
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And those who go to Hell do so because they didn't trust in Him. John 3:16-18.
how utterly ironic...
so in other words, the only unforgivable sin is to have an emotional issue w/ trust????
geez... Can't u see the lunacy of this "argument"????
Were you saying something?
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how utterly ironic...
so in other words, the only unforgivable sin is to have an emotional issue w/ trust????
not murdering someone
not adultery
not homosexual acts
but lack of trusting perfectly....
but ... uh...
i thought if i accpt Christ
i can commit ANY sin... ANY sin at all...
geee.... you mean that's not so?????
but... uh... doesn't Once Saved Always SAved
mean what it says??????
Murder, adultery and homosexuality are not unforgivable sins, no.
And trust isn't a sin issue. Sin was nailed to the cross. If you accept Him you're saved, end of story. Even if you commit sins afterward, your salvation is not lost.
And I said absolutely nothing about emotional issues with trust. But I know that I am not always faithful; thank God He is. It is His faith by which I am saved, not my own. My faith is worthless; it waxes and wanes. The same goes for you; for all of us. If you trust in anyone one other than Him for your salvation you are lost. But if you trust in Him, and Him alone [else it is not trust] then you are His and He will never let you go.
You really should stop being so asinine and spouting off after you've made an assumption, as you have clearly demonstrated you don't know what you're talking about.
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Pray, Hope, and dont worry" Saint Pio
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May 29th, 2012, 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Lighthouse
I'm OSAS and I don't think you're going to Hell for any of those reasons. I also don't think that you're going to Heaven for any of them either. Those who go to Heaven do so because they trusted in the one who knew no sin and was made sin for us so that we might become the very righteousness of God in Him. And those who go to Hell do so because they didn't trust in Him. John 3:16-18.
So let me ask you since you seem the most decent one on here out of the,(OSAS sect members) why did Jesus leave us commandments and consequences in the whole NT for those believers who break the commandments and who do not attend church.? Thank you
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Pray, Hope, and dont worry" Saint Pio
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May 29th, 2012, 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by TruthSetsFree
pagans existed b4 the Church
but i guess thats a small thing in light of...
how wrong the OSASers are..
I just dont understand how they exclude Christs commandments and church attendance, where is this biblical in any religion in the world,? or people who call themselves CHristians, I dont see how they think anyone would buy that non-biblical doctrine.
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Pray, Hope, and dont worry" Saint Pio
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May 29th, 2012, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Lighthouse
I'm OSAS and I don't think you're going to Hell for any of those reasons. I also don't think that you're going to Heaven for any of them either. Those who go to Heaven do so because they trusted in the one who knew no sin and was made sin for us so that we might become the very righteousness of God in Him. And those who go to Hell do so because they didn't trust in Him. John 3:16-18.
Dont you also feel belief is an action on our part, Why would Jesus leave us in his own words commandments and consequences, why would he tell us or make you or any of your sect believe you have nothing to do but believe in him, why have all those books on commandment keeping and consequences it dont add up. I feel your sect faisl to define true faith, deeds comes with faith. bottom line..
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