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June 1st, 2012, 01:11 PM

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Could you please show me where in the bible gambling is sin? If you are loosing and it is a detriment to your family it is sin but if your winning? After a while I get tired of working and want my money to work for me. So would you consider science and engineering dishonest work becuase I sit at a computer or engineering tablet and dont really sweat. I hate work and I work out only to maintain my health but HATE working all day. I dont think you can actually provide concrete biblical proof that gambling is wrong.

Your worldview is in complete error.

The God of the Bible is not a God who sets up 'probabilities' and then passively sits by while you gamble.

The God of the Bible is an active Participator in all earthly processes.
Gambling is a complete deception, since nothing under heaven or on earth is a truly 'random' or undirected process.

In physics this is known as the 'hidden variable hypothesis',
the subject of a great and long protracted debate between Einstein and Bohr:
Einstein believed in hidden mechanisms behind what appeared to be statistical events,
and argued for this on the very basis of the iron-clad statistical observations of physics,
while Bohr argued that 'randomness' and 'accident' were fundamental to physical processes.
Einstein, the father of Relativity and modern physics, believed in the probability of a Sentient Creator behind the remarkable laws of physics,
while Bohr was an atheist and a skeptic, who believed that all observable processes were undirected by any intelligence.
Bohr's position is of course self-contradictory,
and self-aggrandizing, since Bohr believed in his own intelligence and free-will!

The 'appearance' of randomness and undirected process is of course expected from Einstein's worldview,
since that view acknowledges our ignorance and lack of brain-power to fully and completely grasp the physical laws of the universe. Bohr's view by contrast is implausibly conceited.

Thus the 'appearance' of randomness is not surprising, nor evidence of deliberate 'deception' by God, since God Himself informs us that processes are NOT random, even when they may appear to be because of the limitations of human perception and thought, both of which are severely handicapped.

If you willfully ignore God's own teaching on 'randomness',
your claim to be a Christian or Jew who believes in the word of God and in God's word is in serious doubt.

God says there is no 'randomness', and no 'probability', and therefore there can be no gambling.

To insist on 'gambling' in the face of God's clear instruction,
and in spite of God's warning,
is to engage in provocative 'testing' of God Himself.
You can expect a massive failure at an appropriate time,
while you impoverish yourself trying to 'win' at a gambling game,
instead of doing honest work as commanded by God in Genesis.

Your confusion over the issue of gambling and God's word,
is clear evidence that we are in the Last Days,
when none can endure sound doctrine, even supposed 'Christians'.

Get ready for disappointment.





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were to preach any other gospel than that of
Jesus the Christ, crucified, buried, and
raised from the dead by God the Father,
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June 1st, 2012, 01:25 PM

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I have been buying and selling stocks for 18 years.
Here we see a hint of the true "probability" of 'winning' at a gambling game.
The OP has in reality barely broken even at his 'game',
and now a merciful God has restored some of the money he has squandered ignorantly in profitless ventures.

He should quit and write off his real losses,
and consider carefully what God really wants him to learn from this.
The only message here is that God is merciful to those He loves.
He cannot approve of gambling, so if there is further continuation,
there may be catastrophe instead of blessing.

The OP would do well to consider the rich man who, having been blessed with abundance,
thought his good fortune would simply continue, and planned to build bigger barns to store his wealth,
instead of responding to God's generosity with generosity to others less fortunate.

Its a slippery slope and a dangerous thing to fall into the hands of the Living God,
or rather come to His attention, and then disappoint Him.





"But if anyone, even an angel from heaven,
were to preach any other gospel than that of
Jesus the Christ, crucified, buried, and
raised from the dead by God the Father,
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