toldailytopic: Do you think there is a suggested cut off line over how many children
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June 12th, 2012, 07:06 PM
Humans cannot populate indefinitely on a finite earth.
As long as the average children per woman is less than 2.1, we're at replacement value. An individual could have more or less children, the only thing that really matters is what the overall population is doing. The odd person could have 10 or 20 kids without issue so long as it is balanced. Reducing population is probably a better plan given our current rate of resource consumption.
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The Bible always treats a barren womb as unnatural and children as a blessing. A full quiver (Ps 127:5) is around 13-14, so at that number, one is very blessed indeed.
The Bible tells us that a man who does not take care of his family is worse than an infidel. (Sorry to use a word that sounds so "muslim").
It is my belief that we should have children up to the point where we cannot provide for them. Providing for them is all encompassing. It is spiritually, financially, timely, educationally, medically, etc.. Just because we live under Grace does not mean that we do not have responsibilities for our actions. Procreation is an action.
One. Anything more increases the total population. We need it to decrease and if it doesn't because of intelligent behavior then natural law will decrease it through disease, war, pollution, hunger and other mechanisms. That may take a few decades but in many places it has already begun.
This is illogical. If 'intelligent' people realised that having fewer children would be beneficial for the world, the result would be a smaller percentage of intelligent people in the population, which would in turn lead to a larger increase in population. The most intelligent people will want to have more children, not fewer, because they are more likely to benefit the population as a whole, for whatever reason, especially if they are Christians.
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As far as I'm concerned most people shouldn't have one...
That said, barring some kind of catastrophic turn of events, I'd oppose the state dictating how many we can and cannot have. You should have as many children as you can reasonably love and support.
There's something deeply unsettling and grotesque about people having as many as they can just for the sake of it.
Theocrats are Social Darwinists.
Christianity has nothing applicable, appropriate, or worthwhile to offer the 21st century.
One. Anything more increases the total population. We need it to decrease and if it doesn't because of intelligent behavior then natural law will decrease it through disease, war, pollution, hunger and other mechanisms. That may take a few decades but in many places it has already begun.
If you are so concerned about population, we could line up all the rapists, murderers and perverts and execute them.
As to a cutoff on the number of kids, I don't think there should be any. A child is a gift from God.
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June 13th, 2012, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Knight
toldailytopic: Do you think there is a suggested cut off line over how many children a couple can have? If so, how many is too many?
Yes, more than three seems to make people's head spin.
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June 13th, 2012, 12:24 PM
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What plan do you propose for reducing the population?
Educate women, make contraception more available, improve healthcare and living conditions. Women that are educated tend to have less children. Poverty and poor living conditions tend to increase birth rate, partly because you feel the need to have more kids to make sure a few survive.
Many women especially in the third world don't want to have 10 kids. I'm not an advocate of directly limiting how many kids anyone should have. We know enough about demographics to know what conditions make people want to have smaller families and they're almost all good things in and of themselves.
“We do not believe in God because we need to explain this or that feature of the world. That is what science is for. We believe in God because we see something deeper in the world, something that transcends the scientific explanations.” - Karl Giberson Ph.D.
Humans cannot populate indefinitely on a finite earth.
As long as the average children per woman is less than 2.1, we're at replacement value. An individual could have more or less children, the only thing that really matters is what the overall population is doing. The odd person could have 10 or 20 kids without issue so long as it is balanced. Reducing population is probably a better plan given our current rate of resource consumption.
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June 13th, 2012, 02:45 PM
As long as you can support them, have as many as you want... but the moment you require public assistance you should be stopped from having more children till you can get back on your feet to support your own brood.
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