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Sinners cannot save sinners, nor can sinners save themselves.
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June 15th, 2012, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by OMEGA
Regeneration :
Mt 19:28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you,
That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration
when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory,
ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
Tit 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done,
but according to his mercy he saved us,
by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
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Calvin-Klein is my Favorite
Regeneration: Refers to the renewed world of the future, the Kingdom of righteousness yet to come. While the term is used for individual rebirth in Titus 3:5, here it looks to the future millennial Kingdom where the apostles will judge Israel (literally). Forsaking earthly benefits will bring a hundred blessings and eternal life, Matthew 19:27, 28, 29, 30. (Taken from my Bible notes)
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"A day is as a thousand years" is about perspective. Two hours on the highway, to a five year old, seems like an eternity! To a 50 year old trucker, it's just the start of a good morning
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Being led into relationships by urgings of love which arise and are sustained naturally and spontaneously within my heart, is always 'God-righteous' even if I have to transgress the Ten Commandments.
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Being led into relationships by urgings of love which arise and are sustained naturally and spontaneously within my heart, is always 'God-righteous' even if I have to transgress the Ten Commandments.
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June 16th, 2012, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert Pate
Spiritually, he is "In Christ" and Christ is in heaven, Colossians 3:3.
Physically, he is still here on the earth waiting for the redemption of his body, Romans 8:23.
A man who cannot give a straight answer must be watched.
The question is:
Is a child of God saved?
An honest answer is "yes', 'no' or 'I do not know' . . . . and then you may give an explanation.
Or is a 'child of God' the same as a 'child of the flesh'?
An honest answer is 'yes', 'no' or 'I do not know' . . . . and then you may give an explanation.
Where do you stand? What is your belief?
Clearly you are circumcised under the law of sin and not under the law of Christ in accordance with Colossians: 2 verse: 11.
You must be very confused to say Children of God are Spiritually, "In Christ" and Christ is in heaven and attribute that to Colossians 3:3.
You are such a misled man. Colossians 3:3 follows from Colossians 3:2
Colossians: 3 verses: 2 & 3 says: Set your affections on things above not on things on earth for you are 'dead' and your life in Christ (and in God) is hid from you. Clearly this is referring to those in Peter church, i.e. 'the dead' . This is not referring to those in Paul's church, i.e. those in Christ. Those in Christ are led unconditionally by the Spirit as discerned within their hearts. They do not set their affections on things.
Colossians: 3 verse: 3 in no way says: "Children of God are Spiritually, "In Christ" and Christ is in heaven" . . . as you claim.
You interpretation is simply foolish. It is baseless and delusional.
There are two kinds of people on earth.
1. There are those who blasphemy the Spirit (because they are dead to the Spirit) and are sent to Peter's church so that they might stop their blaspheming ways so that they spirit may be saved in the days of our lord Jesus. After death they need help to rise. It seem that after 2000 odd years all of this kind of people are still in the earth in their spirits waiting for that help.
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2. There are those who are in Paul's commission. They are led by the Spirit and they are saved and delivered. After death, under the leadership of the Spirit they rise naturally and spontaneously, on their own, to be like angels in heaven, on the third day, like Jesus because they differ in way from Jesus though He is the head.
There are Peter's people and when they die they wait inside the earth.
Then there are Paul's people and when they die they rise to heaven after three days to be like angels in heaven.
They are two totally different kinds of people.
Clearly you are aware of only Peter's people.
Last edited by Gurucam; June 16th, 2012 at 07:37 PM.
Slogan/motto:
Sinners cannot save sinners, nor can sinners save themselves.
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June 16th, 2012, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Gurucam
A man who cannot give a straight answer must be watched.
The question is:
Is a child of God saved?
Or is he the same as a child of the flesh?
Question is who is a child of God?
Paul said that we are children of God by faith in Jesus Christ, Galatians 3:26.
Paul also said, "The life I now live in the flesh (His Adamic body) I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me," Galatians 2:20.
He is both spiritual and flesh. He struggles with the flesh as in Romans 7:13-25.
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