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Heaven is a place.

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Originally Posted by ttruscott

YEP!

It means exactly that...

I was created in spirit before I was conceived in body.

Peace, Ted

Children are brought forth. They are not conceived and/or created, at the time of physical sexual procreation. Children are brought forth in physical bodies. The are brought into embryos which are conceived in the womb of women in successful procreative sex with a male partner.

Children exist, in their individual spirits, before they come into embryos and are born on earth in physical bodies.

In their spirit, some children were in the realm of earth before entering physical embryos. These are child of the flesh existing in their spirits before they come into embryos.

Other children were in their spirits, in the realm of heaven before they entered physical embryos. These are children of God existing in their spirits before they come into embryos.

Procreating couples have a choice. They can bring forth either children from heaven, i.e. fruits onto God (i.e. children of God) or they can bring forth children from the realm of earth, i.e. fruits onto death (i.e. children of the flesh).

This is the message of Truth within the words in Romans: 7 verse: 1 to 6.

It is quite simple.

When couples are led into their sexual procreative act by their flesh, even under regulation of the Ten Commandments, the love commandments, the pope, the written scriptures, they bring forth only children of the flesh from the realm of earth.

On the other hand when couples are led into their sexual procreative act by their spirit under guidance of the Spirit (even if they have to transgress the Ten Commandments, the love commandments, the pope, the written scriptures) they bring forth only children of God from the realm of heaven.

Peter could not and did not share this knowledge with you. This could be and is confirmed only by Paul.

This entire system is functioning currently, through the Spirit of Jesus. There is no waiting for the physical return of Jesus for this to come to functionality.

Children of God from heaven are returning to earth daily (in accordance with Romans: 8 verse: 29 and Romans: 7 verses: 1 to 6) but not through anyone is traditional Christianity. Fact is those in tradition Christianity do not know of this Truth or believe that this is possible. Therefore they cannot and do not bring forth to earth, these precious fruits of God from heaven. That is, those who are called to God's purpose. That is, those who God predestine to be like Jesus and to be born on earth, from heaven as first born among many brethren on earth.

These people who God predestine to return to earth from heaven died previously as Christians. They were led by the Spirit before death and after death. They were like Jesus (for they differ in no way from Jesus, re. Galatians:4 verse: 1). When they died they traveled the same path as Jesus. That is, after their death, they rose in three day to be like angels in heaven in accordance with Mark: 12 verse: 25.

God knew them before they died and God continue to know them after their death, in heaven, when they rise to heaven, in their spirits only, like angels. There (in heaven) God predestine them to return to earth from heaven like Jesus in accordance with Romans: 8 verse: 29. Currently hey are being returned to earth into human embryos/physical bodies when couples are led into their procreative sexual act by their own spirit under regulations of the Spirit according to Romans: 7 verses: 1 to 6.

Those in traditional Christianity do not see, recognize, believe and/or accept this Truth. Therefore they cannot and do not bring forth child of God (i.e. fruits of God). They bring forth only child of the flesh (fruits onto death). The kingdom of heaven is taken from them and given to those bringing forth fruit of God. These are people outside of traditional Christianity.

The message in Romans: 7 verses: 1 to 6 is also supported by Mark: 12 verse: 25 and Romans: 8 verses: 29.

The fullness of time is at hand.

Wake up and smell the aroma of Truth before it is too late.

Now (i.e. since 2000 odd years ago) the Lord is that Spirit of Jesus (re. 2 Corinthians: 3 verse: 17). Since Jesus physically left those precincts, 2000 odd years ago, the Lord is no longer Jesus in his physical body. Do not look any more for Jesus in a physical body. Jesus in His Spirit is Lord. The Spirit of Jesus delivers all things. Be led by the Spirit into all things . . . do not be hard of hearing.