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July 4th, 2012, 06:01 PM

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Calvin Coolidge or was it Harding? I cannot recall, but one of them managed it...yes he was able to go into the Convention an underdog and came out the nominee.
That's why the GOP is working on appeasing Paul behind closed doors. They don't want him and his delegates to blow to doors off the convention.

Ron Paul has already won

He's shaping the future of the GOP more than Romney ever will be able to.





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Nice video!

Romney supporters?.......





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That's why the GOP is working on appeasing Paul behind closed doors. They don't want him and his delegates to blow to doors off the convention.
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July 4th, 2012, 09:16 PM

Just think of all that work Obama has put in to prepare for Romney. If he had to suddenly and unexpectedly face Ron Paul he would have to start from scratch.



   
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Because they all talked about attacking Iran and expanding the empire, Ron Paul completely destroyed their short sighted, unconstitutional talking points.
What did they propose, specifically, that was unconstitutional?

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All the other candidates seemed to think the President declares war.
In a very relevant sense, they do.

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Watch the debates again...perhaps hindsight will be 20/20 for you.
That's non-responsive, and arrogant. Explain what you think he says or does that's so brilliant if you want me to take your input, or I'll just assume you're in the throws of Paul Mania. I watched as many of the debates as I could stomach, and I saw Paul speaking a lot of nonsense to power.





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That's non-responsive, and arrogant. Explain what you think he says or does that's so brilliant if you want me to take your input, or I'll just assume you're in the throws of Paul Mania. I watched as many of the debates as I could stomach, and I saw Paul speaking a lot of nonsense to power.
You want him to specify what he thinks was brilliant but you yourself have offered a similar non-response as to what you think was nonsense.





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You want him to specify what he thinks was brilliant but you yourself have offered a similar non-response as to what you think was nonsense.
That's true, but I also didn't suggest he go watch the debates in the hopes it will dawn on him. I could perhaps compile a list of the nuttier Paul moments of the season.





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Just think of all that work Obama has put in to prepare for Romney. If he had to suddenly and unexpectedly face Ron Paul he would have to start from scratch.
I suspect there are already contingency plans in place...





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I could perhaps compile a list of the nuttier Paul moments of the season.
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July 10th, 2012, 11:19 AM

Obama or Romney... liberals win either way.





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And you know this how?
Your stupidity is astounding that you actually ask this, and use italics for "how" as though you are making a serious point. Obama won't have his teleprompter, and he is a communist. He would be debating a capitalist.

But it is too late. Nobody has the authority in the White House to reverse our problems. John Boehner is worhtless and won't do it.

It is over


FDR successfully destroyed the greatest nation on earth from the inside by socializing it.





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July 11th, 2012, 03:27 PM

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Your stupidity is astounding that you actually ask this, and use italics for "how" as though you are making a serious point. Obama won't have his teleprompter, and he is a communist. He would be debating a capitalist.

But it is too late. Nobody has the authority in the White House to reverse our problems. Johne Boehner is worhtless and won't do it.

It it over


FDR successfully destroyed the greatest nation on earth from the inside by socializing it.


No...JFK did by lowering the taxes on the top earners from 92% to 70%

That was the beginning of the end for the middle class.



   
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No...JFK did by lowering the taxes on the top earners from 92% to 70%
Neg rep.

When income tax rates were lowered, income tax revenues went up. And that has nothing to do with socializing America, which has brought us to the end. Social security, medicare, medicaid cost more than double our defense department. They are not authorized by God.

The best part is, I will laugh at your calamity when you burn in hell.

Back to the topic and not your eternal fate...

Tax rates went down, tax revenues went up. Because the economy grows when the government doesn't steal from its citizens.

Taxes go down....



Revenues go up....

Reagan's rates were cut from 70% to 28% (top rate). Income tax revenue doubled in just six years from 83-89 with it.



And the rich paid more taxes with their lower rates. As expected.





However, as shown in Obama's budget, the department of health and human services outspends the rest of government combined.



And for good reading...

http://www.heritage.org/research/rep...s-of-lower-tax

You have to be prepared when dealing with liars like bigbang or barbie. Deficits went up (as they always have since FDR) because of spending increases on social programs. Not from tax cuts. They increase revenue because the economy grows.





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When JFK lowered the rate, the wages for workers began to stagnate and not keep up with inflation. The standard of living feel and Both parents had to work to keep the same standard of living. This has has social ramification in that drug use and crime rose because Parents no longer raised their kids like they did in the 50's.

The greed of the top earners has damaged our society. And the middle class is shrinking every year. With the exception of a couple spikes.

Now companies are abandoning the people that made them a success and paying their CEO insane wages for screwing America. The GOP is their party.





And we have had more Republicans administrations.

61% Of Voters Blame Republicans Not Obama For The Recession


Buried in the latest McClatchy/Marist poll was an interesting nugget. Although Americans are upset about the economy, 61% of those polled still think that Obama inherited the recession.

This belief Fact has held true with over 60% of those polled since Obama took office. It has been a fairly unshakable piece of data across the polls that have asked the question.
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And the House Republicans?

Poll: Blame hits GOP in Congress

A record number of Americans say most members of Congress should be voted out of office in 2012 — and that frustration is especially focused on incumbent Republicans, a new poll Thursday shows.

A whopping 67 percent of voters say they want most members off the Hill, according to the Pew Research Center poll. And Republicans are by far the most vulnerable: Half of all Americans say the current Congress has accomplished less than others, and 40 percent say Republican leaders are to blame, while just 23 percent of those polled say Democratic leaders are responsible
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories...#ixzz20OBt8mjk





How come when the absolute truth in in front of some people's eyes, they still said it is all Obama's fault...ARE THE IGNORANT, STUPID OR JUST BIG BABIES WHO WANT TO WIN SOOO BAD AND GET ANOTHER MELT DOWN FROM ANOTHER NO COMMON SENCE REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT?


Tax Cuts...but start two wars

Get around budgeting for military with 'supplemental war support funds'

Put in charge a fellow who ownes an Arabian Horse farm to run FEMA...and his f.u. proves how wrong that was.

Use an infeltration into the Taliban to talk 19 guys into flying into the WTC so we can start a War and make big money for Chainey and Bush families...and all their friends....I'd bet my life on this one.

How Washington goes, so goes the States...Allow HUD home to be bought with Zero down payment. Set a goal to get more Americans in Homes thann ever before.

Let Banks and Stock Market companies work together to make money.

Poor too big to fail is not only untrue, but they became too big to JAIL


Keep the interest rates so low, that any part time grocery clerk could qualiy ... with a little hellp from the bank...


You have to wonder what Banks were thinking in the back of their minds when each of these loands started to default. The bank paid off the builder with all thosse funds in all those accounts...and they were insured under FDIC...Not only did the banks get the FDIC mmoney, they got TARP!!!!



Too big to fail...Bush pleaded with congress to pass the TARP....What would havve happend if they did not....It was a black mail situation...Ther was no way in a global market you can let billions of dollars dissappear. How many retirment funds were wipped out even using the TARP...Why did't tarp money protect those folks? But that home on the books that got a loan for $180 thousand...but worth 100, is not balanced on the Banks Books...and the banks takes it back and SELLS IT AGAIN!!!!


The origion TARP was to help the house end and home owner...but Bush changed that after it passed...REALLY...REALLY



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When JFK lowered the rate, the wages for workers began to stagnate and not keep up with inflation.
Hook, line and sinker. I love libs at times.



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Not from tax cuts it didn't. Real after tax income was the highest following the tax cuts. That is when the standadard of living goes up. Notice how he offers no proof, just cliches'?


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No, one party controlled congress for 40 years, and it wasn't the GOP, nor conservatives. As a side note, the republicans are now almost as liberal as you. And Ronald Reagan isn't your daddy. So quit acting like you need him to make your life better you filthy pig.

I don't have much more to say, since all you did is repeat lies of Rachel Madow, and did not refute anything I posted, such as tax revenue doubling with tax cuts. Polls blame re-publicans? So what? That doesn't make it so. That just means liberals are successful at lying. That is why they are teachers, actors, and news broadcast. Because they, like Traditio, have no skills to offer society. So they get into information to pervert it.





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