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Skeptic;
A sniper is shooting out a window killing women ,children and spoted owls (just in case you're a PETA member) A cop returns fire and the bulllit goes though the bad guy and kills a child. Who is guilty for killing the child?
A: the sniper
B: the cop
C:PETA
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August 22nd, 2003, 09:55 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by deardelmar
Skeptic;
A sniper is shooting out a window killing women ,children and spoted owls (just in case you're a PETA member) A cop returns fire and the bulllit goes though the bad guy and kills a child. Who is guilty for killing the child?
A: the sniper
B: the cop
C:PETA
Ultimately, the responsibility falls on the cop's shoulders; 'twas he who fired the bullet. But most reasonable people would view such an incident as a tragic accident; once the bullet leaves the weapon, it is under nobody's control.
Originally posted by deardelmar
Dear Bush bashers
.... You can catch We were soldiers another day.
No, you should watch "We Were Soldiers" first! I watched it just a few nights ago, and was thinking about how the Pentagon sure learned its lesson from Vietnam regarding how to control the media. If reporters from around the world had been allowed the same kind of access to the Iraq invasion as they had in Vietnam, the American public would be much more outraged by the horrors of this war. The Vietnam war was unjust and the U.S. had to withdraw due to media and public pressure at home. The Iraq invasion was also unjust and the U.S. will eventually have to withdraw and admit its mistakes. But, until then, Bush and the Pentagon are hoping that they can keep the real reasons for the invasion under wraps from the majority of Americans long enough to keep hold of the White House in Nov. '04.
The Bush Lies: "When we're talking about chasing down terrorists, we're talking about getting a court order before we do so."
"Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised."
Originally posted by deardelmar
See the ad that kicked off the JusticeMomentum campaign in the Washington Times, April 9, 2003, the same day Baghdad and Saddam's statue fell.
Despite the trivial evidence BillyBob wants to site, the massive preemptive invasion of Iraq, which violated international law and killed many thousands of innocent people, had NOTHING to do with the "war on terrorism."
And abortion is not murder. But, the unnecessary killing of thousands of Iraqi people is murder!
The Bush Lies: "When we're talking about chasing down terrorists, we're talking about getting a court order before we do so."
"Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised."
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"A day is as a thousand years" is about perspective. Two hours on the highway, to a five year old, seems like an eternity! To a 50 year old trucker, it's just the start of a good morning
Originally posted by Skeptic
Despite the trivial evidence BillyBob wants to site, the massive preemptive invasion of Iraq, which violated international law and killed many thousands of innocent people, had NOTHING to do with the "war on terrorism."
And abortion is not murder. But, the unnecessary killing of thousands of Iraqi people is murder!
You say abortion is not murder. You are wrong and your heart is too hard to know it.
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"A day is as a thousand years" is about perspective. Two hours on the highway, to a five year old, seems like an eternity! To a 50 year old trucker, it's just the start of a good morning
Originally posted by Gerald
Ultimately, the responsibility falls on the cop's shoulders; 'twas he who fired the bullet. But most reasonable people would view such an incident as a tragic accident; once the bullet leaves the weapon, it is under nobody's control.
NO NO NO!! reasonable people would see that the cop had no moral choice but to stop the killing if he could. TRY AGAIN
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"A day is as a thousand years" is about perspective. Two hours on the highway, to a five year old, seems like an eternity! To a 50 year old trucker, it's just the start of a good morning
Does any one remember when Bush first came out with the whole if you sponsor a terrorist ........ thing.
ALL of the talking heads said at the time that if we follow the "Bush Doctrine" we would have to go after Saddam next. Then.... when we go after Saddam! WAIT..... NO BLOOD FOR OIL...... KOREA IS WORSE......WE CAN'T FIND WMD
JUST SHUT UP !!!!!!
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August 22nd, 2003, 11:28 AM
Believe it or not, there are actually people who do not want peace. There are people who will strap on C4 and blow up themselves, busses, and buildings no matter how much peace is promised to them. There are people who cannot do anything but hate enough to snipe from buildingtops and hijack planes. These people do not want peace. They cannot be reached with diplomacy. They must be reached with bullets.
--philosophizer--
Make good choices!
2 Corinthians 10:5 -- casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ
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"A day is as a thousand years" is about perspective. Two hours on the highway, to a five year old, seems like an eternity! To a 50 year old trucker, it's just the start of a good morning
Originally posted by philosophizer
Believe it or not, there are actually people who do not want peace. There are people who will strap on C4 and blow up themselves, busses, and buildings no matter how much peace is promised to them. There are people who cannot do anything but hate enough to snipe from buildingtops and hijack planes. These people do not want peace. They cannot be reached with diplomacy. They must be reached with bullets.
You tell em philosophizer do you want to get together and watch Braveheart!!!!
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August 22nd, 2003, 11:36 AM
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Originally posted by deardelmar
NO NO NO!! reasonable people would see that the cop had no moral choice but to stop the killing if he could. TRY AGAIN
I thought I said that, you yeast-brain!
The death of the child would be viewed by most as an unfortunate accident. I couldn't care less about the criminal in your little scenario: cap him, then mutilate his body for good measure.
Originally posted by deardelmar
Does any one remember when Bush first came out with the whole if you sponsor a terrorist ........ thing.
ALL of the talking heads said at the time that if we follow the "Bush Doctrine" we would have to go after Saddam next. Then.... when we go after Saddam! WAIT..... NO BLOOD FOR OIL...... KOREA IS WORSE......WE CAN'T FIND WMD
JUST SHUT UP !!!!!!
Iraq was not sponsoring those terrorists who posed a threat to America! Saddam did pay money to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers, but this had nothing to do with any clear and imminent threat to America, and did not warrant Bush's preemptive invasion of Iraq, which killed many thousands of innocent people!
Iraq was not a threat to America. Show me hard empirical evidence that Iraq was a clear and imminent threat to America or other countries. Bush's preemptive invasion of Iraq was based on hearsay and suspicions. And the evidence suggests that our President lied about, distorted and exaggerated the threat Saddam posed to America! As I've said before, Bush claimed Iraq was in the process of producing and stockpiling tons chemical and biological weapons; that these weapons could be sprayed from unmanned planes over U.S. cities; and that Iraq was "six months away" from building a nuclear weapon, saying "I don't know what more evidence we need." Bush declared that not acting quickly against Iraq to disarm them of these weapons would be "suicidal." By often mentioning both in the same breath, Bush continued to implicate Iraq and 9/11, even though there has never been evidence that Saddam had anything to with the 9/11 attacks. Connect the dots, people!! You pseudo-patriots have been duped by your President and the Pentagon!
The Bush Lies: "When we're talking about chasing down terrorists, we're talking about getting a court order before we do so."
"Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised."
Slogan/motto:
"A day is as a thousand years" is about perspective. Two hours on the highway, to a five year old, seems like an eternity! To a 50 year old trucker, it's just the start of a good morning
Originally posted by Gerald
I thought I said that, you yeast-brain!
The death of the child would be viewed by most as an unfortunate accident. I couldn't care less about the criminal in your little scenario: cap him, then mutilate his body for good measure.
OK I am a yeast-brain BUT
The correct answer should have been A: the sniper bears the guilt just as Saddam bears the guilt for the dead in Iraq and Yaser bears the guilt for the children on the bus!
Originally posted by Gerald
Indeed. In the short-term, peace is not profitable...
Agreed. And sometimes, as Bush is aware, war can be quite profitable, in the short-term. Follow the money, people! (That is, if the Bush administration allows access to this information.)
The Bush Lies: "When we're talking about chasing down terrorists, we're talking about getting a court order before we do so."
"Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised."
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