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"One Day AT A Time" Taken from that Old Gospel Classic.
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July 15th, 2012, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by heir
I didn't ask where is it, but what is it. Be specific. After all, it (the gospel of Christ) is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth.
The good news is that God sent His Son Jesus Christ to be a propitiation for our sins.
In Christianity, propitiation is accomplished through Jesus Christ on the cross in his crucifixion or sacrifice, which was made possible through his sinless life. He accepted and fulfilled the wrath and indignation of God. The crucifixion or sacrifice of Christ conciliates God, who would demand a penalty for it.
If you want anything more specific, you will have to be more specific. For those who do not know need to read the Bible.
Also Hebrew and Greek dictionaries are very valuable tools for studying the Bible.
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2 Corinthians 5:19 KJV To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
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July 16th, 2012, 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Bradley D
The good news is that God sent His Son Jesus Christ to be a propitiation for our sins.
You say this and yet you do not believe that one is "OSAS" as if God was not satisfied with the sacrifice of His Son. So just how many of your sins were left unpaid by the shed blood of the Lord Jesus Christ?
2 Timothy 2:15 KJV Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
You can be LOST and I believe salvation is Progressive .
Joh 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches:
He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit:
for without me ye can do nothing.
Lu 8:13 They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away.
Heb 6:6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
Hi , and OMEGA , where is the concept that salvation is Progressive , with some verses,??
Slogan/motto:
do unto others as you would have them do unto you
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August 23rd, 2012, 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by DAN P
Hi to all , and this OP is to those who preach and teach you can be LOST and to those who believe salvation is Progressive .
Col 2:10 reads , And you are " in Him " , HAVING BEEN MADE COMPLETE who is the Head of every Principality .
#1 , You are is in the Present Continuous tense , and it is a Fact .
#2 , COMPLETE/PLEROO is in the Greek Perfect Tense . The Perfect Tense means Past Action , and that Past Action was when all were Initially Saved !!
Then , we are AWAYS in the Continuous Present and can never go back in time !!
#3 , It is in the Passive voice , which means that God did the saving and NOT US , nor did we hand a hand in it like Baptism , Works or did Repentance come into play in our salvation as were DEAD in Trepassess and Sins ,
#4 , Having been made Complete is the correct to translate the Participle , Having been made complete .
PLEROO/COMPLETE means to make full ; to fill up ; to the full ; to carry into Effect .
Just another PROOF the we are OSAS , do not NEED confessionall , nor Water Baptism or any other ISM's .
We do not have to ENDURE , like those Kingdom saints in Matt 24:13 and I see that Matt 24:13 is not far ahead of Matt 16:18 ??
dan p
are you in him when you disobey him?
narrow is the road and difficult the way that leads to salvation.
why did Paul go to lengths to demonstrate that marriage should reflect the church's relationship to Christ?
should we not be obedient as a wife? look back through history and see what happens when the wife is unfaithful and disobedient.
God didn't speak in vain. And I will not use the words of one disciple to overrule God.
Slogan/motto:
The sky is always up, it is never down!!
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September 6th, 2012, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DAN P
Hi to all , and this OP is to those who preach and teach you can be LOST and to those who believe salvation is Progressive .
Col 2:10 reads , And you are " in Him " , HAVING BEEN MADE COMPLETE who is the Head of every Principality .
#1 , You are is in the Present Continuous tense , and it is a Fact .
#2 , COMPLETE/PLEROO is in the Greek Perfect Tense . The Perfect Tense means Past Action , and that Past Action was when all were Initially Saved !!
Then , we are AWAYS in the Continuous Present and can never go back in time !!
#3 , It is in the Passive voice , which means that God did the saving and NOT US , nor did we hand a hand in it like Baptism , Works or did Repentance come into play in our salvation as were DEAD in Trepassess and Sins ,
#4 , Having been made Complete is the correct to translate the Participle , Having been made complete .
PLEROO/COMPLETE means to make full ; to fill up ; to the full ; to carry into Effect .
Just another PROOF the we are OSAS , do not NEED confessionall , nor Water Baptism or any other ISM's .
We do not have to ENDURE , like those Kingdom saints in Matt 24:13 and I see that Matt 24:13 is not far ahead of Matt 16:18 ??
dan p
Once we have placed our faith in Christ as Lord and Savior, we are placed into the "Body of Christ." by the Holy Spirit. In Him, we are complete and sinless from the standpoint of God the Father.. Christ was perfect, sinless, and righteous (He fulfilled all righteousness) even
being "water baptized." Therefore, since we are "In Christ" we stand before God, righteous, and sinless!! Therefore, since He was "water baptized" we don't have to, because we are, "in Him" the, "body of Christ!!"
Once we have placed our faith in Christ as Lord and Savior, we are placed into the "Body of Christ." by the Holy Spirit. In Him, we are complete and sinless from the standpoint of God the Father.. Christ was perfect, sinless, and righteous (He fulfilled all righteousness) even
being "water baptized." Therefore, since we are "In Christ" we stand before God, righteous, and sinless!! Therefore, since He was "water baptized" we don't have to, because we are, "in Him" the, "body of Christ!!"
"The Bible is very clear, Christians aren't supposed to be busybodies, nor are they supposed to strive with any man who hasn't harmed him (Or someone else, by implication.)" RandPaulfor2016, May 10, 2013
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The sky is always up, it is never down!!
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September 6th, 2012, 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by tudorturtl
are you in him when you disobey him?
narrow is the road and difficult the way that leads to salvation.
why did Paul go to lengths to demonstrate that marriage should reflect the church's relationship to Christ?
should we not be obedient as a wife? look back through history and see what happens when the wife is unfaithful and disobedient.
God didn't speak in vain. And I will not use the words of one disciple to overrule God.
You simply don't understand the "position" one has, once they have been, "born again Spiritually?" They are "in Christ" at that point and considered, sinless, perfect, and righteous because they are in the "Body of Christ." Christ is sinless, perfect and righteous. However, we still have our mortal bodies and are capable of choosing to sin. The difference is; now, instead of facing judgement, we are in a position to receive discipline for our sin as a Father would discipline his child, which we are....
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