[Nang]

Originally Posted by Untellectual

Four verses later, but what does it say?

Verse 1 gives you the context and premise of vs 18.

The LOGOS define the Christ as being:

God

Eternal

Only begotten Son

[Untellectual]

Originally Posted by Nang

The Son of God is "Eternally Generated."

Originally Posted by Nang

Verse 1 gives you the context and premise of vs 18.

The LOGOS define the Christ as being:

God

Eternal

Only begotten Son

[JesusFan]

Originally Posted by Untellectual

The doctrines of the Incarnation and the Trinity are present in Christian thought.

These words do not show up in the Bible. Where do the doctrines come from and what do they say?

Can these extra-Biblical doctrines be defended with the Bible?

the word Bible not found in the bible either! Do you still call the collection of 66 books that term?

John stated that God becalme flesh and "taberbacled' among us , so it does clearly state that God was here in human flesh!

paul called Jesus the "expressed visible image" of the invisible God...

Trinity was seen as a concept even in the OT, for god created the Universe, AND His Spirit brooded over the earth...

jesus called God His father, john ?paul/peter etc ALL stated jesus was/is Son of the father, and John expressly stated that he was God, as did peter and paul!

Peter/paul called the Spirit God also...

Both terms concept wise well proved in the Scriptures!

[Untellectual]

Originally Posted by JesusFan

the word Bible not found in the bible either! Do you still call the collection of 66 books that term?

When I say Bible I mean the 66 books, yes. This is the Hebrew Bible, or TaNaKh, which is 39 books. Plus the Christian "New Testament" which is 27 more books. I use the term Bible to speak of all of it, without the names we have given these sections ("Old Testament" and "New Testament") simply because the Covenants/Testaments are not the writings/scriptures themselves, but are spoken of in these scriptures. However, in addition to needing to find the covenants in their respective parts of the Bible, the term "Old Testament" is found in the "New Testament", and the "New Testament" is found in the "Old Testament".