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But if you don't know what THE WASHING OF regeneration is, it won't mean much to you.
You are trying to trick me into saying that I am born again, I am not stupid. Paul wrote Titus 3:5 (KJV) and he's my apostle. On the surface, it looks like he's saying that each individual in the Body is regenerated or born again.
That's why I am telling you to find out what THE WASHING of regeneration is, and WHEN it took place.
Single words have a variety of meaning in various contexts. You cannot just say what regeneration is apart from context. However, phrases pack much more specific meaning in them. The washing of generation has a specific meaning; regeneration doesn't.
Slogan/motto:
Ephesians 3:9: "And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:"
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July 25th, 2012, 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by tetelestai
You should remember your above words the next time you claim a fellow member of Christ's Body isn't saved.
The only means I have to judge whether one is in the Body is what they say about salvation and compare it to 1 Cor 15:1-4 (KJV).
1. Land forever. Gen 17:8 (KJV)
2. City FROM heaven. Rev 21:2 (KJV)
3. Heavenly places. Eph 2:6-7(KJV)
Don't mix them, leavening the whole household of God. Luke 13:21 (KJV)
This is the first use of the declaration and 1 Cor 15:25 KJV is rooted in this Psalm, therefore if one wants to know the context, one must look to its' foundation.
Why is it so hard for you dispensationalists to understand that the only times that OT verses are quoted in the NT is to show that they are being fulfilled, or have been fulfilled.
Somehow you dispies think that verses from the OT were written again in the NT to show they were still yet future.
Slogan/motto:
1 Jo 4:7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.
1Jo 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
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July 25th, 2012, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by tetelestai
You should remember your above words the next time you claim a fellow member of Christ's Body isn't saved.
Amen, they judge others, but, forget to apply it to themselves.
........and, edit to add.
Anyone who does not even believe they are born again, should not even be claiming to be saved...much less judging the salvation of anyone.
Slogan/motto:
1 Jo 4:7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.
1Jo 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
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July 25th, 2012, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by tetelestai
You have said that Godrulz is not saved.
What does Godrulz say about salvation that is contrary to 1 Cor 15:1-4?
Slogan/motto:
1 Jo 4:7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.
1Jo 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
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July 25th, 2012, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by tetelestai
Why is it so hard for you dispensationalists to understand that the only times that OT verses are quoted in the NT is to show that they are being fulfilled, or have been fulfilled.
Somehow you dispies think that verses from the OT were written again in the NT to show they were still yet future.
edit to add. I received a neg rep from STP for my 'chuckle' remark, and called an 'idiot'.
Last edited by NewDay; July 28th, 2012 at 11:40 AM.
Why is it so hard for you dispensationalists to understand that the only times that OT verses are quoted in the NT is to show that they are being fulfilled, or have been fulfilled.
Somehow you dispies think that verses from the OT were written again in the NT to show they were still yet future.
When was this fulfilled or show how it's in process of being fulfilled, either in Paul's time or since then:
Psa 110:5 The Lord is at Your right hand; He shall execute kings in the day of His wrath.
Psa 110:6 He shall judge among the nations, He shall fill the places with dead bodies, He shall execute the heads of many countries.-NKJV
Somehow, you pretties think that everything has already been fulfilled.
Slogan/motto:
Ephesians 3:9: "And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:"
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July 25th, 2012, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by tetelestai
What does Godrulz say about salvation that is contrary to 1 Cor 15:1-4?
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Originally Posted by godrulz
Saving faith is not divorced from loving obedience to the revealed moral law of God.
1 Cor 15:1-4 requires belief, and zero obedience, and zero works to "prove" that you believe it.
1. Land forever. Gen 17:8 (KJV)
2. City FROM heaven. Rev 21:2 (KJV)
3. Heavenly places. Eph 2:6-7(KJV)
Don't mix them, leavening the whole household of God. Luke 13:21 (KJV)
When was this fulfilled or show how it's in process of being fulfilled, either in Paul's time or since then:
Psa 110:5 The Lord is at Your right hand; He shall execute kings in the day of His wrath.
Psa 110:6 He shall judge among the nations, He shall fill the places with dead bodies, He shall execute the heads of many countries.
If you look at verse 2, it says "rule thou in the midst of thine enemies". This means that people will resist the reign of Christ.
Nowhere in the Bible does it say there will be a time when all nations willfully submit to the Lord Jesus Christ.
The Lord Jesus Christ governs all nations whether they acknowledge Him or not.
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Somehow, you pretties think that everything has already been fulfilled.
Simple rule Steko; if an OT prophecy is quoted in the NT, the reason it is quoted is to show that it was being fulfilled.
No matter how hard you dispies try to show otherwise, the prophecies were fulfilled. That is why the writers of the NT quoted the prophecies.
1 Cor 15:1-4 requires belief, and zero obedience, and zero works to "prove" that you believe it.
Godrulz is non-OSAS. He believes that after salvation a believer has to continue in the faith, or the believer can lose his or her salvation.
There are many Christians who believe the same thing. This doesn't mean they are not saved.
He also believes that faith without works is dead. Not works for salvation, but works post salvation, and not works to "prove" you are saved, but works as a result of being saved.
He also has made it clear that a believer cannot sin their way out of salvation.
You guys constantly twist what he and others believe.
I don't agree with him on some of these issues, but I truly believe he is a brother in Christ.
You on the other hand think he is an unbeliever. You better hope you are right when it comes time for you to stand before the Bema Seat.
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