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July 30th, 2012, 11:31 PM

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Why don't you look it up instead of wondering?

The water he was damming up on his property was water that drained into streams. There's nothing abnormal about the government doing this. There are rules and restrictions about land owners impending water flow. This is nothing new.
Only if land owners down stream have water rights and file a grievane. Its not the govts place to harrase people unless there are actual damages to other water right holders.



   
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Only if land owners down stream have water rights and file a grievane. Its not the govts place to harrase people unless there are actual damages to other water right holders.
1) No, they don't necessarily have to have complaints at all.

2) There were multiple complaints against his reservoirs for many years.





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July 31st, 2012, 06:10 AM

You guys do realize that "If it weren't for government investment in infrastructure and other projects", that rain water wouldn't have landed on private property to begin with.
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1) No, they don't necessarily have to have complaints at all.

2) There were multiple complaints against his reservoirs for many years.
complaints by private citizens whom had water rights? I think not, this is an over step of govt.



   
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Was he? According to the article in the opening post, the law isn't against catching water in some ways. Others are illegal. Are they making an arbitrary distinction?
From what I've read, the city had rights to all the water in the drainage basin. That would cover streams and rivers as well as whatever falls into the area.

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From what I've read, the city had rights to all the water in the drainage basin. That would cover streams and rivers as well as whatever falls into the area.
So they just don't always enforce their rights?

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So what's next, is Oregon going regulate sunlight and wind?





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So what's next, is Oregon going regulate sunlight and wind?
Oh please. Why are folks acting like water flow law is some sort of atrocious new thing? It's not something new, nor is it anything unusual. States have rules and regulations regarding water flow. This guy abused his rights and wanted to skirt the law. He created huge reservoirs on his property by building dams, one of them 20-feet high (the other two dams 10-feet high). He was impeding natural rainfall flow to the surrounding area, streams and to the Butte river. After 10 years of the state telling him to stop, and him ignoring that, they finally cracked down on him.





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Oh please. Why are folks acting like water flow law is some sort of atrocious new thing? It's not something new, nor is it anything unusual. States have rules and regulations regarding water flow. This guy abused his rights and wanted to skirt the law. He created huge reservoirs on his property by building dams, one of them 20-feet high (the other two dams 10-feet high). He was impeding natural rainfall flow to the surrounding area, streams and to the Butte river. After 10 years of the state telling him to stop, and him ignoring that, they finally cracked down on him.
It is totalitarianism UNLESS someone down stream has documented water rights that are being infringed upon. Also if he applied for water rights and was denyed without a good reason that is also totalitarianism. The only exception would be if he completely dried up a world class salmon stream or some other public park, etc. But if its just some stream no one cares about then the govt was simply harrasing him.



   
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