toldailytopic: Should business owners have the right to not serve a gay customer?
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Or because they refuse to take that sort of treatment as though someone was entitled to give them the back of their hand. Just another perspective. Maybe they're just looking or equity, not notoriety.
If they want to be equals, they shouldn't be homos.
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July 31st, 2012, 09:31 PM
Yes a business has a right to refuse service to anyone....however when it is something like this case you refer to it probablly was not wise to say "why". HOWEVER< I agree with them on both points....they can refuse to bake a gay couples wedding cake OR a heterosexuals one.
Think of businesses like BARS who can refuse service to anyone.
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July 31st, 2012, 09:34 PM
ALSO....maybe the shop's owner thought they would be a "problem"/not satisifed no matter what/rubbed them the wrong way and a complaint/discount waiting to happen....
I bet that same bakery has turned away other "bridezillas" of the hetero side. The business has a right to refuse anyone!!!
If a Jewish business wants to serve only Jews they should have that right! It's called LIBERTY!!!
People... lets not throw away our liberty just because some other person doesn't think or agree with everything you do.
Every business owner already has that right. They just don't get to claim they are open to the public, if they don't intend to serve the public.
I don't even know why this is an issue, when you are all free to be a bigoted and prejudiced and biased in your business practices as you want to be. You just have to be HONEST about it. If you don't intend to serve the public, then you can't pretend that you are open to the public. How hard is that to understand and accept?
Every business owner already has that right. They just don't get to claim they are open to the public, if they don't intend to serve the public.
I don't even know why this is an issue, when you are all free to be a bigoted and prejudiced and biased in your business practices as you want to be. You just have to be HONEST about it. If you don't intend to serve the public, then you can't pretend that you are open to the public. How hard is that to understand and accept?
The cake shop business owner that sparked this thread topic didn't make his stance public.
The two homos came into his cake shop and demanded he make them a gay marriage themed cake. He told them that was against his values and asked that they find another place to have their cake made.
The two homos then went on Facebook and caused a stir drumming up protests against the business owner.
Ask an anti theist. Or anyone with a competing ideology. And if we reduce right to a hand and head count that might matter. Sharia law anyone?
What are you on about?
We shouldn't write laws based on the popularity of an idea. We should write laws based on what is right and what is wrong. It is wrong to force a business to serve when they do not wish to serve. It is the right of every business owner to refuse service as they see fit.
And if homosexuals want to be treated like normal people, they should not act abnormally. Equality comes by conforming to the rules. Those who do not conform should face consequences. It is not abnormal to be a Christian.
Not getting cake seems like a fairly tame consequence, by the way.
We shouldn't write laws based on the popularity of an idea. We should write laws based on what is right and what is wrong. It is wrong to force a business to serve when they do not wish to serve. It is the right of every business owner to refuse service as they see fit.
Blacks only. No negroes served. That followed. I think that's a bad idea, that if you own a business open to the public you shouldn't exclude people, only conduct.
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And if homosexuals want to be treated like normal people, they should not act abnormally.
How do homosexuals act abnormally in a cake shop? In a restaurant?
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Equality comes by conforming to the rules.
We're talking about the rules. Equality comes from right, which is inherent. It is the foundation for our social compact. The rules don't create the right, they reflect it. We hold these truths to be self evident...not everyone agrees with that, of course.
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Those who do not conform should face consequences. It is not abnormal to be a Christian.
It is if you think Christians are delusional. And then, if you get enough people to agree with you, no more equality for Christians. That's mob rule.
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Not getting cake seems like a fairly tame consequence, by the way.
So does a back seat on a bus, if you're sitting up front.
There need be no law regarding when, how and to whom businesses should operate. And any law created to do such is a repression of liberty.
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Blacks only. No negroes served. That followed. I think that's a bad idea, that if you own a business open to the public you shouldn't exclude people, only conduct.
Of course it's a bad idea to discriminate against people based on their ethnicity. But some bad ideas are not worth legislating against. In fact, the vast majority of bad ideas are not worth legislating against.
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How do homosexuals act abnormally in a cake shop? In a restaurant?
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