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Being led into relationships by urgings of love which arise and are sustained naturally and spontaneously within my heart, is always 'God-righteous' even if I have to transgress the Ten Commandments.
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August 3rd, 2012, 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Untellectual
I believe you are both missing some information and wrong on some points.
Like your other beliefs this one is also unfounded and without KJV N.T. support.
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Deuteronomy 6:6 (KJV) And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:
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August 3rd, 2012, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Gurucam
Like your other beliefs this one is also unfounded and without KJV N.T. support.
You have an idea of spiritual against physical, and you throw Peter under the bus as satanic, a man who was commissioned by God to feed the flock and share the good news of the gospel with others.
Deuteronomy 10:12 (KJV) And now, Israel, what doth the LORD thy God require of thee, but to fear the LORD thy God, to walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul,
Deuteronomy 10:13 (KJV) To keep the commandments of the LORD, and his statutes, which I command thee this day for thy good?
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Being led into relationships by urgings of love which arise and are sustained naturally and spontaneously within my heart, is always 'God-righteous' even if I have to transgress the Ten Commandments.
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August 5th, 2012, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Untellectual
You have an idea of spiritual against physical, and you throw Peter under the bus as satanic, a man who was commissioned by God to feed the flock and share the good news of the gospel with others.
Your ideas (which you pass off as being Christian) are so very flawed and/or corrupt, at every turn. You bring simple and obvious facts into confusion and/or corruption.
You have to face the fact that it is not I who identified peter to be Satan. That was Jesus.
It was Peter who thereafter denied that he was Satan.
Fact is Jesus needed Satan and a Satanic church where He can sent people so that they stop their blaspheming ways so that their spirit may be saved in the day of out lord Jesus. This is confirmed unequivocally in 1 Corinthians: 5 verse: 5 and 1 Timothy: 1 verse: 20.
Jesus did appoint one who He identified to be Satan to a church.
Satan/Peter was appointed by Jesus to anchor His Satanic church where people can be sent to stop their blaspheming ways so that they spirit may be saved in the day of our lord Jesus in accordance with 1 Corinthians: 5 verse: 5 and 1 Timothy: 1 verse: 20.
Therefore it all fits according to revelations from the KJV N.T. I have delivered that which was given to me by the Spirit to deliver.
Tomorrow what I deliver will still be true regardless of how foolishly you seek to deny and undermined it. What I delivered will always be true. This is the facts as recorded in the KJV N.T. What you hold is foolishness which unaware Satanic Peter made up.
One can be led to water however one cannot be made to drink. You can hold on to 2000 years old make up things that are contrary to KJV N.T. revelations. That is your foolishness.
However do not expect that to save and deliver you. And do not expect to get you any marks for that.
Fact is people err when they do not know Truth.
Telling me that you and your family believe something that is erroneous count for nothing now and when the chips are down. There is no sympathy for those who have denied and so blasphemy the Spirit. Not for you or your family or anyone else.
Instead of arguing and trying to justify foolishness you should seek to wake up yourself and your family and smell the aroma of truth. You have been told.
You pride is bruised. However if in an egoistic attempt to restore your prided by propping up and promoting your uninformed theories instead of seeking to bring Truth to your family, it is only you who would be burying them in a way that is very terrible.
You have brought you family into mention and indeed you are concerned bout them. Fact is you are among the very great majority (i.e. all but a few) of those called to Christianity. You, (although you are a grown-up) have been badly misled by false prophets who came in Jesus name. It is for you to drop your ego and embrace Truth. If only for the sake of you family. If you don't, it is you and your family who will suffer, the consequence. You can help them, it is up to you.
Their future is in you hands. You can play with their future by seeking to justify foolishness. That is your choice. Fact is it is not about winning arguments, it is about seeking and knowing Truth.
Your only saving grace is to admit that what the KJV N.T. confirmed as I have pointed out is correct. And what you have been led to believe and believed, since childhood is absolutely erroneous.
Jesus identified Peter to be Satan. However Peter did two corrupt things thereafter.
He denied that he was Satan and he developed a description for Satan that was and is, very incorrect and highly negatively exaggerated.
Untellectual, you have to go back to first principles to get Truth which is the basis of salvation, deliverance, graduation to being a child of God and achieving glory of God. However if your only wish is simply to guide and manage your family in a socially, morally and religiously acceptable manner then your present ideas might be adequate.
You will not get Truth which is the basis of salvation, deliverance, graduation to being a child of God and achieving glory of God under your appraoch and your belief system.
Truth, which is the basis of salvation, deliverance, graduation to being a child of God and achieving glory of God, is achieved only through the Spirit from within each person own heart. Your approach to life is actually founded on blaspheming the Spirit.
Fact is Satan Peter was appointed by Jesus to guide those who blasphemy the Spirit to stop doing so, by awakening them to their own hearts or spirits. The very Peter who you seek to hold and uphold beyond his actualization, capacity and appointment, is failing you miserably. You have not learn to stop blaspheming the Spirit.
If you delight in the letter, the law, commandment, canons, the physical Jesus and other seen thing that is fine. Go forth and accept that you are not under the Spirit and not under grace and being in Christ is not for you. Accept that you do not look to thing that are 'not seen' and eternal (like Jesus in His Spirit). You look to things that are 'seen' and temporal (like Jesus in a physical body). You are not Christian (i.e. you are not 'in Christ'). And that is fine. However do not seek to make your position out to be the only one. There are those who are led by the Spirit as discerned within their own hearts or spirit. They are the Christians and they are absolutely different from you who still seeks a physical Jesus and who also delight in Peter and Co. and their 'seen' appraoch to everything.
You must live and let Christians also live. Many Christians are found outside of what you perceive to be Christianity (re. Matthew 21:43 KJV). That is your serious limitation. You delight in the commission of Peter, that is fine. Have your life on your terms. However do not undermined the commission of Paul. To undermine the commission of Paul is blasphemy of the Spirit . . . an unforgivable sin. You can be the best loyalist to Peter, that is fine. However you must recognize that Paul's commission is different and well given for those who can actually detect that Peter is Satan. You must respect their right to be led by the Spirit. If you hold and promote that your way is the only way, then you blasphemy the Spirit and you are absolutely dead in your waters.
These confirmation would not cause you any discomfit unless you are truly ready for Truth. If you are not ready for Truth you will simply throwout what I have delivered and continue to hold your preexisting beliefs. If I have managed to awaken you to the folly of your beliefs then you will be awakened to an open and genuine search for Truth.
Last edited by Gurucam; August 6th, 2012 at 12:36 AM.
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Deuteronomy 6:6 (KJV) And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:
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August 5th, 2012, 11:54 PM
Gurucam,
I have read part of your rant above, but you need to know something (which I already told you but you are not listening).
God had a purpose with Peter before He ever had a purpose with Paul. They were both chosen intruments for bringing God's grace and the gospel in Christ to a dying world made up of both Jews and Gentiles.
Read about what God did with Peter in rescuing him. Those who follow Christ ought not to be viewed as satanic. You are right that Jesus spoke of Peter in an unfavorable way, but you must remember God's plan of reconciliation included even Peter. If you don't see this, you will continue to think of yourself as better than Peter, and never see God's true grace in the situation.
For the cause of the gospel,
Untellectual
Deuteronomy 10:12 (KJV) And now, Israel, what doth the LORD thy God require of thee, but to fear the LORD thy God, to walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul,
Deuteronomy 10:13 (KJV) To keep the commandments of the LORD, and his statutes, which I command thee this day for thy good?
Slogan/motto:
Being led into relationships by urgings of love which arise and are sustained naturally and spontaneously within my heart, is always 'God-righteous' even if I have to transgress the Ten Commandments.
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August 6th, 2012, 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Untellectual
Gurucam,
I have read part of your rant above, but you need to know something (which I already told you but you are not listening).
God had a purpose with Peter before He ever had a purpose with Paul. They were both chosen intruments for bringing God's grace and the gospel in Christ to a dying world made up of both Jews and Gentiles.
Read about what God did with Peter in rescuing him. Those who follow Christ ought not to be viewed as satanic. You are right that Jesus spoke of Peter in an unfavorable way, but you must remember God's plan of reconciliation included even Peter. If you don't see this, you will continue to think of yourself as better than Peter, and never see God's true grace in the situation.
For the cause of the gospel,
Untellectual
I surely agree with you.
Jesus and God had a very legitimate and appropriate purpose for Peter. Jesus purpose for Peter denied nothing that Jesus said at any other forum.
Jesus purpose for Peter cannot and do not deny Jesus' (Own) confirmation that Peter was Satan.
Peter was given an appointment by Jesus because he was Satan. Jesus need Satan to serve Him. This is confirmed in 1 Corinthians: 5 verse: 5 and 1 Timothy: 1 verse: 20
It is you who are denying that Peter was and remained Satan. Therefore you are seriously blaspheming Jesus.
You have to face the fact that it is not I who identified peter to be Satan. That was Jesus.
On the other hand it was Peter who denied that he was Satan. And now it is you who are denying that Peter was Satan.
You speak of " one continue to think of oneself as better than Peter" clearly Peter and you think yourselves better than Jesus when you deny Jesus' revelations that Peter is Satan.
This is God's and Jesus' need for Peter as Satan:
Fact is Jesus and God needed Satan and a Satanic church where people can be sent so that they might stop their blaspheming ways so that their spirits may be saved in the day of our lord Jesus. This is confirmed unequivocally in 1 Corinthians: 5 verse: 5 and 1 Timothy: 1 verse: 20. You are a live example of one who is denying the Spirit and so blaspheming the Spirit. . Peter was given to have you (and the likes of you) stop your blaspheming ways.
Jesus did appoint one who He identified to be Satan to a church. This was in accordance with Jesus' need for Satan in accordance with 1 Corinthians: 5 verse: 5 and 1 Timothy: 1 verse: 20. Do not blasphemy this truth.
Satan/Peter was appointed by Jesus to anchor His Satanic church where people can be sent to stop their blaspheming ways so that they spirit may be saved in the day of our lord Jesus in accordance with 1 Corinthians: 5 verse: 5 and 1 Timothy: 1 verse: 20.
If Peter (who Jesus identified to be Satan) was not appointed by Jesus, to His required Satanic service, in accordance with, 1 Corinthians: 5 verse: 5 and 1 Timothy: 1 verse: 20, then who was?
Peter's satanic appointment to serve Jesus as Satan all fit according to revelations from the KJV N.T.
I have delivered that which was given to me by the Spirit to deliver.
Pray tell what here is not literally confirmed by KJV N.T. revelations?
You make up you own scriptures and seek to under mine precise deliveries from Jesus as recorded in the KJV N.T.
It is clearly stated in the KJV N.T. that Peter is Satan. You tell me, where in the KJV N.T., does it say that Peter is not Satan?
Making up your own scriptures and denying Jesus declarations does not make you a loyal Christian. That makes you a false prophet who came in Jesus' name.
Everything that you are saying is of your own making or making-up, including your claim that Peter was not Satan.
Jesus my divine and absolutely trusted big brother and Savior confirmed to me that Peter was Satan. It will take far more than you and Peter to convince me otherwise. I take Jesus to his word always. Peter, I cannot take, not even with a very huge pinch of salt. You and your family will be well advised to do the same.
I do not blasphemy either scriptures (i.e. the letters) or the Spirit.
Peter and his descendants have long abandoned the parameters of Peter's appointment under Jesus. They are untamed in their Satanic nature and orientation. Traditional Christians (like you) blasphemy both the scriptures and the Spirit, 24 -7. Traditional Christians are not actual Christians, they are the very great majority (i.e. all but a few) of those who are called to Christianity. These, who are the great majority (all but a few) of those called (to Christianity), are misled by false prophets who came in Jesus' name and they err and are not chosen.
These false prophets who came in Jesus' name are anchored strongly within what passes for Christianity and they are accepted there to be Christianity most profound and accurate advocates. From this secure platform they are misguiding many (i.e. all but a few of those called to Christianity). They determine and control what passes for Christianity, everywhere, from well within what is most widely accepted to be Christianity. They are unaware and so their ideas are carnal or physical only. That is they are 'intellectual' or 'Satan' i.e. people of only physical awareness and physical orientation. The sad part is that the absolutely great majority (all but a few) of those called to Christianity accept the very erroneous rendition of Christianity as projected and taught by these false prophets who came in Jesus' name. The result is that, under the misguided ideas of those false prophets, many like you, your immediate families, your extended families and friends, including those of yours who have 'passed on', have been (and continue to be) misguided, for all of the past 2000 odd years.
The very great majority of those who have physically died under that system (i.e. the system which you believe and seek to uphold) can easily be lost souls. They physically died whiles in unawareness and/or denial and blasphemy, of the Spirit. For you it seem to be simply a matter of wining arguments. The seriousness of the folly which passes for Christianity totally escapes you. What about your children and the younger generations of new people seeking Truth in Christianity? Are you going to allow your pride to deny these masses of younger people, their right to truth as confirmed in the KJV N.T.?
By the way: you should read everyone of my posts in the finest detail and repeatedly. They are the New Testament in totality, accuracy and clearly. These are presented, under grace of God, in the body of Christ, for the edification of the last to Christianity. My posts confirm the authentic path to Christianity, according to the literal revelations of same in the KJV N.T.. That is, those who come to Christianity by way of these last days posts will inevitably get the accurate, total and clear path to Truth. They will, therefore, not err and be chosen first.
You will quite naturally be anxious to return to your Old tattered and erroneous 'wisdom' and ways. It it difficult to change that which you have believed for all your life. At any event that will be your stumbling block. You will be well advised to not go back there, i.e. to the Old and tattered and erroneous which are not supported by KJV N.T. revelations. You should at least seek to liberate you children and their children from the bondage of your old tattered and erroneous beliefs.
Last edited by Gurucam; August 6th, 2012 at 07:10 AM.
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Deuteronomy 6:6 (KJV) And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:
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August 6th, 2012, 10:16 AM
Gurucam,
You say Peter was satan, rather than that he was speaking contrary to God's commands (as does satan).
And you say Peter was satan and remained satan.
Satan does not lead people to Christ or feed the flock of God as Peter did.
So you are wrong.
Untellectual
Deuteronomy 10:12 (KJV) And now, Israel, what doth the LORD thy God require of thee, but to fear the LORD thy God, to walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul,
Deuteronomy 10:13 (KJV) To keep the commandments of the LORD, and his statutes, which I command thee this day for thy good?
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Being led into relationships by urgings of love which arise and are sustained naturally and spontaneously within my heart, is always 'God-righteous' even if I have to transgress the Ten Commandments.
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August 6th, 2012, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Untellectual
Gurucam,
Satan does not lead people to Christ or feed the flock of God as Peter did.
Untellectual
These are the facts as recorded in the KJV N.T.
I do not know that Satan can or will lead people to Christ. Where did you get that? Satan cannot do that. Peter who was identified to be Satan was never appointed to do that. If Peter is trying to do that, he is acting quite on his own. He will inevitably misguide everyone one who take him seriously. That was not Peter's appointment under Jesus.
However this does not say that Peter/Satan cannot serve Jesus.
Your belief that Satan will not or cannot serve Jesus is very wrong. Jesus and God required Satan's services but certainly not to lead anyone onto Christ.
1 Corinthians: 5 verse: 5 and 1 Timothy: 1 verse: 20 confirmed that people are sent to Satan so that they might stop their blaspheming ways so that their spirit might be saved in the days of our lord Jesus . . . . what is the matter, is it that your KJV N.T. do not have these revelations? Did you scratch them out?
This confirms that Satan can be of service to the lord Jesus. And indeed Satan in the person of Peter was appointed to serve Jesus in a the above very appropriate capacity and that did not include leading anyone onto Christ.
Peter simply and wrongly dismissed Paul and stole Paul's commission and stole and usurped the Christian title. However Peter was Satan and he could not serve the commission which was given by Jesus to Paul. Peter and Co. still cannot lead anyone onto Christ. At best they can seek to stop people from blaspheming the Spirit so that their spirit may be saved in the day of our lord Jesus. They are not even doing that, only a few from among them are making it, i.e. if any at all are making it.
Jesus clearly and plainly identified Peter to be Satan. Jesus also appointed Peter to anchor a church. It should be obvious to any one that Peter was called to anchored a Satanic Church where people are sent to stop their blaspheming ways so that their spirits might be saved in the day of our lord Jesus.
Satan/Peter was appointed by Jesus to anchor His Satanic church where people can be sent to stop their blaspheming ways so that they spirit may be saved in the day of our lord Jesus in accordance with 1 Corinthians: 5 verse: 5 and 1 Timothy: 1 verse: 20.
Peter was not called by Jesus to lead anyone onto Christ. That was Paul's commission.
This is what the KJV N.T. confirmed unequivocally. Anything else is a distortion from Peter, who started by denying Jesus and then denying Jesus confirmation that he was Satan.
Last edited by Gurucam; August 6th, 2012 at 11:49 AM.
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Deuteronomy 6:6 (KJV) And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:
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August 6th, 2012, 11:33 AM
Gurucam,
Jesus' church is not satanic.
Peter was among the apostles of God in the early church.
Untellectual
Deuteronomy 10:12 (KJV) And now, Israel, what doth the LORD thy God require of thee, but to fear the LORD thy God, to walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul,
Deuteronomy 10:13 (KJV) To keep the commandments of the LORD, and his statutes, which I command thee this day for thy good?
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Being led into relationships by urgings of love which arise and are sustained naturally and spontaneously within my heart, is always 'God-righteous' even if I have to transgress the Ten Commandments.
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August 6th, 2012, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Untellectual
Gurucam,
Jesus' church is not satanic.
Peter was among the apostles of God in the early church.
Untellectual
The KJV N.T. says different.
Jesus commissioned two churches one under Peter who He identified to be Satan. Peter knew Jesus only in his physical body. This made him Satan.
Jesus commissioned another church under Paul who had direct personal communion with Him (i.e. with Jesus) in His Spirit. Paul was led by the Spirit of Jesus, this made Paul a child of God.
1 Corinthians: 5 verse: 5 and 1 Timothy: 1 verse: 20 confirmed that people are sent to Satan so that they might stop their blaspheming ways so that their spirit might be saved in the days of our lord Jesus . . . . what is the matter, is it that your KJV N.T. do not have these revelations? Did you scratch them out?
Jesus identified Peter to be Satan and gave him this Satanic commission (in accordance with 1 Corinthians: 5 verse: 5 and 1 Timothy: 1 verse: 20) where people can be sent so that they would stop their blaspheming ways so that their spirit might be saved in the day of our lord Jesus.
Peter commission is the Old Testament church of God (slightly modified from the times of Moses). This church is seen, with treasures on earth and none in heaven. Isn't the treasures of Peter & Co. every where on earth?
Paul commission is the New Testament church of God. This church is unseen with no treasures on earth, all treasures are in heaven. Paul's commission is entirely through the (unseen) Spirit of Jesus as discerned within one's own (unseen) heart or spirit.
You deny that Jesus commissioned a Satanic church because it suit your fancy and in order to prop-up your erroneous beliefs. You do not even know what, according to KJV N.T. revelations, makes a person Satan. You hold some erroneous made-up definition (which you got from Peter) for Satan.
Peter denied that he was and is Satan and he also made up a very false and bad rap sheet for Satan. And Peter sure have you fooled, i.e. taken hook, line and sinker.
Did you ever ask your self what did Peter do, in order for him to be identified to be Satan by Jesus? Go back to your KJV N.T. and seek out that information, then you can come here and speak with some correct information as to how and why Peter was Satan. Stop parroting Peter distortions. He is a well established and known denier of Jesus, who is Truth.
All that Jesus can do for one who is unaware (like you) is to confirm that Peter is Satan. If you do not wish to accept that, well that is your choice.
Most criminals deny their crimes. In much the same way as Peter denied that he was Satan. They also routinely deny the fair and informed authoritative judgment of their status or standing. Why would you want to follow Peter and deny Jesus. That is the continuing crucifixion of Jesus, under your hands.
Last edited by Gurucam; August 6th, 2012 at 06:37 PM.
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Deuteronomy 6:6 (KJV) And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:
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August 6th, 2012, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Gurucam
The KJV N.T. says different.
Jesus commissioned two churches one under Peter who He identified to be Satan. Peter knew Jesus only in his physical body. This made him Satan.
Jesus commissioned another church under Paul who had direct personal communion with Him (i.e. with Jesus) in His Spirit. Paul was led by the Spirit of Jesus, this made Paul a child of God.
1 Corinthians: 5 verse: 5 and 1 Timothy: 1 verse: 20 confirmed that people are sent to Satan so that they might stop their blaspheming ways so that their spirit might be saved in the days of our lord Jesus . . . . what is the matter, is it that your KJV N.T. do not have these revelations? Did you scratch them out?
Jesus identified Peter to be Satan and gave him this Satanic commission (in accordance with 1 Corinthians: 5 verse: 5 and 1 Timothy: 1 verse: 20) where people can be sent so that they would stop their blaspheming ways so that their spirit might be saved in the day of out lord Jesus.
Both Peter and Paul were in the past led by satan into all sorts of error, living contrary to God and Christ even against their stated desires to be obedient to God and His word. After each their conversion, they both were led by the Spirit of God from the Father and the Son. They were both leaders in the church of God, individually members of the church of God.
Deuteronomy 10:12 (KJV) And now, Israel, what doth the LORD thy God require of thee, but to fear the LORD thy God, to walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul,
Deuteronomy 10:13 (KJV) To keep the commandments of the LORD, and his statutes, which I command thee this day for thy good?
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Being led into relationships by urgings of love which arise and are sustained naturally and spontaneously within my heart, is always 'God-righteous' even if I have to transgress the Ten Commandments.
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August 6th, 2012, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Untellectual
Both Peter and Paul were in the past led by satan into all sorts of error, living contrary to God and Christ even against their stated desires to be obedient to God and His word. After each their conversion, they both were led by the Spirit of God from the Father and the Son. They were both leaders in the church of God, individually members of the church of God.
That is your opinion, which you are seeking to promote as being equal to that of Jesus.
Can your ruling be equal to that of Jesus?
Peter was the only one identified by Jesus to be Satan. No one reached that plateau to be identified to be Satan by Jesus. By denying Jesus you may be running a close second to Peter. A criminal may be forgive for denying his conviction. However what reason can you have for denying Jesus judgment that Peter was Satan? For what reason and under what perceived authority, would you declare that Paul and other were led by Satan and then seek to have you judgment accepted as being equal to that of Jesus' judgment that Peter was Satan?
Do you not detect desperation in your responses. You are crossing serious lines. While I am simply quoting Jesus, literally you are condemning Paul and others out of your own volition. You are a desperate man.
If Peter was simply making a mistake why would Jesus want to single him out and identify only him to be Satan. Jesus identified no one else to be Satan. Paul may have attacked Jesus' church, however at no time was Paul identified to be Satan by Jesus. However you seek to identify him to be Satan (like Peter). You are on your own Satanic agenda. You are evil. I told you to seek out what makes a man Satan, according to KJV N.T. revelations. You clearly have a warped and very misguided idea (that is totally contrary to Jesus idea) of what makes a man Satan.
Untellectual, you are losing it. Be careful, those who God wish to destroy He first makes mad.
Why would Jesus single out Peter and Peter alone, and clearly identify him to be Satan, if that was not for our clear, precise and pointed edification?
Jesus identified Peter to be Satan. You want to deny that, restore Peter on your say so and identify others who you perceive to be Satan. You are an enemy to Jesus. You are no respecter of Jesus. You pay lip service to Jesus while denying him simultaneously. Mouth confession is nothing when it stand alone.
On what authority do you reverse Jesus' judgment and make your own judgment? And still claim that you are Christian? Is this on Peter authority? Are you given that authority on Peter say so? Indeed Peter was well know for denying Jesus conveniently and adding his own judgments or canons etc.
You clearly perceive yourself to a savior of sorts, especially to your family, for most likely they have no choice but to deny Jesus and His revelations and to accept you and your conclusions, as their lord and savior.
Last edited by Gurucam; August 6th, 2012 at 08:47 PM.
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Deuteronomy 6:6 (KJV) And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:
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August 6th, 2012, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Gurucam
Why would you want to follow Peter
Peter was converted from being an unbeliever and tool of satan to Jesus.
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and deny Jesus. That is the continuing crucifixion of Jesus, under your hands.
Deuteronomy 10:12 (KJV) And now, Israel, what doth the LORD thy God require of thee, but to fear the LORD thy God, to walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul,
Deuteronomy 10:13 (KJV) To keep the commandments of the LORD, and his statutes, which I command thee this day for thy good?
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Deuteronomy 6:6 (KJV) And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:
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August 6th, 2012, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Gurucam
That is your opinion, which you are seeking to promote as being equal to that of Jesus.
Can your ruling be equal to that of Jesus?
Peter was the only one identified by Jesus to be Satan.
If Peter was simply making a mistake why would Jesus want to single him out and identify only him to be Satan.
Why would Jesus single out Peter and Peter alone, and clearly identify him to be Satan, if that was not for our clear, precise and pointed edification?
Peter spoke against God's will, and anything that is against God's will is of satan.
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Jesus identified Peter to be Satan. You want to deny that, restore Peter on your say so and identify others who you perceive to be Satan.
How so?
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You are an enemy to Jesus. You are no respecter of Jesus. You pay lip service to Jesus while denying him simultaneously. Mouth confession is nothing when it stand alone.
On what authority do you reverse Jesus' judgment and make your own judgment? And still claim that you are Christian? Is this on Peter authority? Are you given that authority on Peter say so? Indeed Peter was well know for denying Jesus conveniently and adding his own judgments or canons etc.
You clearly perceive yourself to a savior of sorts, especially to your family, for most likely they have no choice but to deny Jesus and His revelations and to accept you and your conclusions, as their lord and savior.
I am single and do not have a family of my own. I am not Jesus. But I follow Jesus. And Jesus restored Peter.
Deuteronomy 10:12 (KJV) And now, Israel, what doth the LORD thy God require of thee, but to fear the LORD thy God, to walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul,
Deuteronomy 10:13 (KJV) To keep the commandments of the LORD, and his statutes, which I command thee this day for thy good?
Slogan/motto:
Being led into relationships by urgings of love which arise and are sustained naturally and spontaneously within my heart, is always 'God-righteous' even if I have to transgress the Ten Commandments.
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August 7th, 2012, 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Untellectual
Peter was converted from being an unbeliever and tool of satan to Jesus.
Where is the confirmation of this in the KJV N.T.?
That is your opinion, which you are seeking to promote as being equal to that of Jesus.
Can your ruling be equal to that of Jesus?
Peter was the only one identified by Jesus to be Satan. No one reached that plateau to be identified to be Satan by Jesus. By denying Jesus you may be running a close second to Peter. A criminal may be forgive for denying his conviction. However what reason can you have for denying Jesus judgment that Peter was Satan? For what reason and under what perceived authority, would you declare that Paul and other were led by Satan and then seek to have you judgment accepted as being equal to that of Jesus' judgment that Peter was Satan?
Do you not detect desperation in your responses. You are crossing serious lines. While I am simply quoting Jesus, literally you are condemning Paul and others out of your own volition. You are a desperate man.
If Peter was simply making a mistake why would Jesus want to single him out and identify only him to be Satan. Jesus identified no one else to be Satan. Paul may have attacked Jesus' church, however at no time was Paul identified to be Satan by Jesus. However you seek to identify him to be Satan (like Peter). You are on your own Satanic agenda. You are evil. I told you to seek out what makes a man Satan, according to KJV N.T. revelations. You clearly have a warped and very misguided idea (that is totally contrary to Jesus idea) of what makes a man Satan.
Untellectual, you are losing it. Be careful, those who God wish to destroy He first makes mad.
Why would Jesus single out Peter and Peter alone, and clearly identify him to be Satan, if that was not for our clear, precise and pointed edification?
Jesus identified Peter to be Satan. You want to deny that, restore Peter on your say so and identify others who you perceive to be Satan. You are an enemy to Jesus. You are no respecter of Jesus. You pay lip service to Jesus while denying him simultaneously. Mouth confession is nothing when it stand alone.
On what authority do you reverse Jesus' judgment and make your own judgment? And still claim that you are Christian? Is this on Peter authority? Are you given that authority on Peter say so? Indeed Peter was well know for denying Jesus conveniently and adding his own judgments or canons etc.
You clearly perceive yourself to a savior of sorts, especially to your family, for most likely they have no choice but to deny Jesus and His revelations and to accept you and your conclusions, as their lord and savior.
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Being led into relationships by urgings of love which arise and are sustained naturally and spontaneously within my heart, is always 'God-righteous' even if I have to transgress the Ten Commandments.
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August 7th, 2012, 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Untellectual
Peter spoke against God's will, and anything that is against God's will is of satan. And Jesus restored Peter.
Where is the confirmation of this in the KJV N.T.?
That is your opinion, which you are seeking to promote as being equal to that of Jesus.
Can your ruling be equal to that of Jesus?
Peter was the only one identified by Jesus to be Satan. No one reached that plateau to be identified to be Satan by Jesus. By denying Jesus you may be running a close second to Peter. A criminal may be forgive for denying his conviction. However what reason can you have for denying Jesus judgment that Peter was Satan? For what reason and under what perceived authority, would you declare that Paul and other were led by Satan and then seek to have you judgment accepted as being equal to that of Jesus' judgment that Peter was Satan?
Do you not detect desperation in your responses. You are crossing serious lines. While I am simply quoting Jesus, literally you are condemning Paul and others out of your own volition. You are a desperate man.
If Peter was simply making a mistake why would Jesus want to single him out and identify only him to be Satan. Jesus identified no one else to be Satan. Paul may have attacked Jesus' church, however at no time was Paul identified to be Satan by Jesus. However you seek to identify him to be Satan (like Peter). You are on your own Satanic agenda. You are evil. I told you to seek out what makes a man Satan, according to KJV N.T. revelations. You clearly have a warped and very misguided idea (that is totally contrary to Jesus idea) of what makes a man Satan.
Untellectual, you are losing it. Be careful, those who God wish to destroy He first makes mad.
Why would Jesus single out Peter and Peter alone, and clearly identify him to be Satan, if that was not for our clear, precise and pointed edification?
Jesus identified Peter to be Satan. You want to deny that, restore Peter on your say so and identify others who you perceive to be Satan. You are an enemy to Jesus. You are no respecter of Jesus. You pay lip service to Jesus while denying him simultaneously. Mouth confession is nothing when it stand alone.
On what authority do you reverse Jesus' judgment and make your own judgment? And still claim that you are Christian? Is this on Peter authority? Are you given that authority on Peter say so? Indeed Peter was well know for denying Jesus conveniently and adding his own judgments or canons etc.
You clearly perceive yourself to a savior of sorts, especially to your family, for most likely they have no choice but to deny Jesus and His revelations and to accept you and your conclusions, as their lord and savior.