[aCultureWarrior]

While I choose not to get sidetracked on the obvious, another Christian conservative started a thread recently about a certain "Christian", who just happens to be very active in this thread when it comes to defending evil.



Interesting.

Why do homosexuals HATE God so much? Stick around, you'll find the answer later in this thread.

[noguru]

Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

While I choose not to get sidetracked on the obvious, another Christian conservative started a thread recently about a certain "Christian", who just happens to be very active in this thread when it comes to defending evil.



Interesting.

Why do homosexuals HATE God so much? Stick around, you'll find the answer later in this thread.

My screen name is actually from a Van Morrison song:

Originally Posted by In The Garden

The streets are always wet with rain
After a summer shower when I saw you standin'
Standin' in the garden, in the garden wet with rain
You wiped the teardrops from your eye in sorrow
Yeah we watched the petals fall down to the ground
And as I sat beside you
I felt the great sadness that day
In the garden


And then one day you came back home
You were a creature all in rapture
You had the key to your soul and you did open
That day you came back to the garden
The olden summer breeze was blowin' against your face, alright
The light of God was shinin' on your countenance divine
And you were a violet colour as you sat beside your father
And your mother in the garden

The summer breeze was blowin' on your face
Within your violet you treasure your summery words
And as the shiver from my neck down to my spine
Ignited me in daylight and nature in the garden
And you went into a trance, your childlike vision became so fine
And we heard the bells within the church, we loved so much
And felt the presence of the youth of eternal summers in the garden
Alright, and as it touched your cheeks so lightly

Born again you were and blushed
And we touched each other lightly
And we felt the presence of the Christ
Within our hearts in the garden
And I turned to you and I said "No guru, no method, no teacher
Just you and I and nature And the Father in the garden"

Listen, no guru, no method, no teacher Just you and
I and nature And the Father and the Son And the Holy Ghost in the garden wet with rain
No guru, no method, no teacher Just you and I and nature
And the Father and the Son
And the Holy Ghost in the garden In the garden wet with rain

Nice try at slander though.

[Memento Mori]

Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

Why do homosexuals HATE God so much? Stick around, you'll find the answer later in this thread.

Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

Regarding the homosexualization of both the American Psychiatric Association and the American Psychological Association: I'll cover those extensively later in the thread. Thanks for the information though.

Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

No, I did not know that Eeset. We'll be covering homosexual promiscuity and diseases later..

Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

The "harm" that homosexuality is doing to our youth through molestation and indoctrination will also be covered EXTENSIVELY in future posts, as well as the harm the lifestyle and it's agenda is doing to our once great Christian nation.

Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

Did I mention we'll also discuss how homosexual predators infilitrated the Catholic Church?

Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

I'll be presenting evidence that your so-called "moral majority" (the cute homosexual couple playing house) isn't so moral later in this thread when I discuss homosexual promiscuity, diseases and death rates. Oh, I can't forget the hundreds of thousands that turn out for the morally depraved "gay pride parades". But of course those "decent" homosexuals don't go to those parades, they're busy at home yarning socks.

Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

Homosexuals infiltrating various institutions with the intention of molesting little boys will be covered extensively later in this thread.

Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

I'll discuss later that those "stay at home moral homosexuals" that you play up so much (and who are the key to making homosexuality look "normal", as shown in the pro homosexual book After the ball:
how America will conquer its fear and hatred of gays in the '90s') vote and financially contribute to many of the homsexual organizations out there that promote the homosexual agenda.

Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

I'm saving the video "The Kinsey Syndrome" for later in the thread, as I'll be discussing in detail the modern day "founders" of the homosexual movement.

Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

As I will show with the Bryan Fischer series "When homosexual bigots commit hate crimes", Chick fil A is a victim of a hate crime.

Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

I'll be providing the body count of homosexuals that have died from AIDS later in the thread.

Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

When I get the the part in the thread where it shows that homosexuals are afflicted with "fun diseases" like HIV/AIDS, anal cancer, syphilis, and a whole bunch of dieases I don't even want to try and spell, I'll also bring up the FRAUD reporting going on in Africa regarding those "heterosexuals with AIDS".

Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

I'll be showing later in the thread in the part discussing homosexual indoctrination of children in schools what happens to daddies that defend their children.

Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

Patience grasshopper, the extensive section on homosexuality and "man/boy love" will be here soon enough. BTW, your "information" has been used over and over again, to which I respond:

Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

While I could spend at least another month on how homosexuals use the threat of physical violence against those that speak out against their movement and agenda, I'll save that part for when I discuss Adolf Hitler and his homosexual Nazi Party. Yes, threatening 14 year old girls and little old ladies with death just because they speak up in favor of decency, is part of the homosexual "tolerant" agenda and his "Gestapo" written all over it.

Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

I'll be addressing the strategy that those who have been 'marketing' homosexuality to America use later in the thread. Victimization is one of the keys.

Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

More on this [Barack Obama] homosexualist later in the thread (he does more than murder babies).

Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

And yes, the homosexual "deathstyle" will also be discussed, which in essence is allowing homosexuals to play Russian Roulette with their lives.

Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

As I will later show in the disease and death section of this thread, homosexuals are committing suicide and much of society is applauding it by doing absolutely nothing about it.

Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

I'll be showing 35 decent people that make great sacrifices to expose the filthy lifestyle and evil agenda that you ignoramuses go to great effort to defend.

After that, I'll show you the names and faces of perverts that you moral relativists are allies with.

Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

Being that the vast majority, if not all of my sources come from the dozen or two people that I'll be continuing to give praise to in the next day or two, I guess you'll have to spend every waking moment (and your dreams when you do retire to your coffin at sunrise) proving them wrong instead of attacking little ole me.

Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

And for those that want to go into Christian doctrine, let's hold off on discussing how drag queens and fairies have slithered into the institution of religion for now fellas.

I'll be discussing that further down the road, somewhere between where "Gay Pioneer" Frank Kameny stated that he see's nothing wrong with bestiality (as long as the animal doesn't mind), and former "Safe School Czar" Kevin Jennings teaching school children 23 different ways you can use your hand.

Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

Oh, I forgot. I'll be telling about my experience working a vice detail where I arrested homosexuals "silenting hunting" their prey in public restrooms.

Yes GM, I can smell a fag a mile away, even over the internet.

Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

I'll be talking about Adolf Hitler soon enough chair.

While I'm not going to discuss European countries that have legalized homosexuality and what went along with it (the legalization of child pornography) at this time, those "progressive countries" certainly aren't role models for the US to follow.

Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

[Chair asks: Which European countries have legalized child pornography?] To be discussed when I talk about the close ties between homosexuality and pedophilia.

Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

I'm sure your posts will be a hoot to read when we go into how homosexuals have invaded religious institutions.

Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

Let's hold off on talking about child pornography, child rape and child kidnapping in the homosexual-pedophilia-adoption section of this thread Ralphie.

Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

Not to worry alwight, I'll get to the part where human 'animals' engage in "nasty and disgusting" behavior. It's quite a ways down the list, but it will be covered (and I'll guarantee you alwight, you aint gonna like the truth one bit).

Setting the over represented isolated incidences, egregious factual errors, and victimization aside, still waiting... Your approximately 5/29 (I only saw 3 figures which were probably exaggerated, plus your "these people are good/bad posts," Gay Hitler, and victim Christian discrimination acts)

This took a half-hour. Is it really going to require an entire year to get the entirety of your stupidity across?

[noguru]

Originally Posted by Memento Mori

This took a half-hour. Is it really going to require an entire year to get the entirety of your stupidity across?

I would say the entirety of his/her stupidity will never completely come across to him/her. This thread is definitely a good glimpse into the twisted mind of a very delusional "culturewarrior".

[Town Heretic]

Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

...Why is it that homosexuals HATE God so much?

I don't know that they do. In fact, I know that many don't. Though if I had to guess why some do I'd suggest it's mostly due to people like you. Just a guess, mind you.

See what happens when you decriminalize something as wicked as homosexuality and moral degenerates feel EMPOWERED?

He said, resting on the roundly discredited nonsense of non academics.

From 10 Anti-Gay Myths Debunked:

MYTH # 5
Gay men controlled the Nazi Party and helped to orchestrate the Holocaust.

THE ARGUMENT

This claim comes directly from a 1995 book titled The Pink Swastika: Homosexuality in the Nazi Party, by Scott Lively and Kevin Abrams. Lively is the virulently anti-gay founder of Abiding Truth Ministries and Abrams is an organizer of a group called the International Committee for Holocaust Truth, which came together in 1994 and included Lively as a member.

The primary argument Lively and Abrams make is that gay people were not victimized by the Holocaust. Rather, Hitler deliberately sought gay men for his inner circle because their "unusual brutality" would help him run the party and mastermind the Holocaust. In fact, "the Nazi party was entirely controlled by militaristic male homosexuals throughout its short history," the book claims. "While we cannot say that homosexuals caused the Holocaust, we must not ignore their central role in Nazism," Lively and Abrams add. "To the myth of the 'pink triangle' — the notion that all homosexuals in Nazi Germany were persecuted — we must respond with the reality of the 'pink swastika.'"

These claims have been picked up by a number of anti-gay groups and individuals, including Bryan Fischer of the American Family Association, as proof that gay men and lesbians are violent and sick. The book has also attracted an audience among anti-gay church leaders in Eastern Europe and among Russian-speaking anti-gay activists in America.

THE FACTS

The Pink Swastika has been roundly discredited by legitimate historians and other scholars. Christine Mueller, professor of history at Reed College, did a line-by-line refutation of an earlier (1994) Abrams article on the topic and of the broader claim that the Nazi Party was "entirely controlled" by gay men. Historian Jon David Wynecken at Grove City College also refuted the book, pointing out that Lively and Abrams did no primary research of their own, instead using out-of-context citations of some legitimate sources while ignoring information from those same sources that ran counter to their thesis.

The myth that the Nazis condoned homosexuality sprang up in the 1930s, started by socialist opponents of the Nazis as a slander against Nazi leaders. Credible historians believe that only one of the half-dozen leaders in Hitler's inner circle, Ernst Röhm, was gay. (Röhm was murdered on Hitler's orders in 1934.) The Nazis considered homosexuality one aspect of the "degeneracy" they were trying to eradicate.

When the National Socialist Party came to power in 1933, it quickly strengthened Germany's existing penalties against homosexuality. Heinrich Himmler, Hitler's security chief, announced that homosexuality was to be "eliminated" in Germany, along with miscegenation among the races. Historians estimate that between 50,000 and 100,000 men were arrested for homosexuality (or suspicion of it) under the Nazi regime. These men were routinely sent to concentration camps and many thousands died there.

In 1942, the Nazis instituted the death penalty for gay men. Offenders in the German military were routinely shot. Himmler put it like this: "We must exterminate these people root and branch. ... We can't permit such danger to the country; the homosexual must be completely eliminated."

Always happy to help.

[noguru]

Originally Posted by Town Heretic

I don't know that they do. In fact, I know that many don't. Though if I had to guess why some do I'd suggest it's mostly due to people like you. Just a guess, mind you.


He said, resting on the roundly discredited nonsense of non academics.

From 10 Anti-Gay Myths Debunked:

MYTH # 5
Gay men controlled the Nazi Party and helped to orchestrate the Holocaust.

THE ARGUMENT

This claim comes directly from a 1995 book titled The Pink Swastika: Homosexuality in the Nazi Party, by Scott Lively and Kevin Abrams. Lively is the virulently anti-gay founder of Abiding Truth Ministries and Abrams is an organizer of a group called the International Committee for Holocaust Truth, which came together in 1994 and included Lively as a member.

The primary argument Lively and Abrams make is that gay people were not victimized by the Holocaust. Rather, Hitler deliberately sought gay men for his inner circle because their "unusual brutality" would help him run the party and mastermind the Holocaust. In fact, "the Nazi party was entirely controlled by militaristic male homosexuals throughout its short history," the book claims. "While we cannot say that homosexuals caused the Holocaust, we must not ignore their central role in Nazism," Lively and Abrams add. "To the myth of the 'pink triangle' — the notion that all homosexuals in Nazi Germany were persecuted — we must respond with the reality of the 'pink swastika.'"

These claims have been picked up by a number of anti-gay groups and individuals, including Bryan Fischer of the American Family Association, as proof that gay men and lesbians are violent and sick. The book has also attracted an audience among anti-gay church leaders in Eastern Europe and among Russian-speaking anti-gay activists in America.

THE FACTS

The Pink Swastika has been roundly discredited by legitimate historians and other scholars. Christine Mueller, professor of history at Reed College, did a line-by-line refutation of an earlier (1994) Abrams article on the topic and of the broader claim that the Nazi Party was "entirely controlled" by gay men. Historian Jon David Wynecken at Grove City College also refuted the book, pointing out that Lively and Abrams did no primary research of their own, instead using out-of-context citations of some legitimate sources while ignoring information from those same sources that ran counter to their thesis.

The myth that the Nazis condoned homosexuality sprang up in the 1930s, started by socialist opponents of the Nazis as a slander against Nazi leaders. Credible historians believe that only one of the half-dozen leaders in Hitler's inner circle, Ernst Röhm, was gay. (Röhm was murdered on Hitler's orders in 1934.) The Nazis considered homosexuality one aspect of the "degeneracy" they were trying to eradicate.

When the National Socialist Party came to power in 1933, it quickly strengthened Germany's existing penalties against homosexuality. Heinrich Himmler, Hitler's security chief, announced that homosexuality was to be "eliminated" in Germany, along with miscegenation among the races. Historians estimate that between 50,000 and 100,000 men were arrested for homosexuality (or suspicion of it) under the Nazi regime. These men were routinely sent to concentration camps and many thousands died there.

In 1942, the Nazis instituted the death penalty for gay men. Offenders in the German military were routinely shot. Himmler put it like this: "We must exterminate these people root and branch. ... We can't permit such danger to the country; the homosexual must be completely eliminated."

Always happy to help.

ACW does not care about reality. All he cares about is pushing his very inaccurate subjective views on others. He thinks that deceiving people is a way to bring people to Christ. He is sadly mistaken. If people fall victim to such deceit as a path to Jesus (which is debatable given the fruits they bear), they end up just as delusional as ACW. And even through all this, I do not hate ACW. I hope and pray that one day ACW will understand that the light he thinks he is seeing at the end of the tunnel is actually a train. That will ultimately destroy him/her.

[noguru]

I'm not sure if anyone heard the news. They found a surviving child of Hitler. They interviewed the person who said:

"I live in Seattle, WA, I am a culture warrior, and I will be taking over Germany as a long awaited replacement for Hitler, and this time;

"No more Mr. Nice Guy!"

[aCultureWarrior]

Originally Posted by Town Heretic

Historian Jon David Wynecken at Grove City College also refuted the book, pointing out that Lively and Abrams did no primary research of their own, instead using out-of-context citations of some legitimate sources while ignoring information from those same sources that ran counter to their thesis...

Before I continue with Bryan Fischer's response to ex Christian conservative, current homosexualist Warren Throckmorton of Grove City College, I'll touch on what those who study history know as the truth:

Homosexuals just love little boys. The Nazi's were no different.

WARNING! Excerpts from the following article has very disturbing facts about homosexuals and the brutality that they exhibited towards innocent boys while in control of the Nazi Party.

"The truth about homosexuality and the Nazi Party"

By Bryan Fischer

"The Interfaith Alliance, a far-left religious advocacy group in Idaho, has accused Scott Lively, a scheduled speaker at this weekend's "Shake the Nation" conference in Boise, of "bearing false witness" and of being "mean-spirited and hurtful."

Lively's crime? In his book, "The Pink Swastika," Lively exposes a secret homosexual activists don't want you to know about Nazi Germany: that although the Nazis did persecute homosexuals, the homosexuals the Nazis persecuted were almost exclusively the effeminate members of the gay community in Germany, and that much of the mistreatment was administered by masculine homosexuals who despised effeminacy in all its forms.

Ludwig Lenz worked at the Sex Research Institute in Berlin, which was destroyed by Hitler's Brown Shirts in 1933 likely because its records, including 40,000 confessions from members of the Nazi Party, would have exposed the sexual perversions of Nazi leadership. Lenz said that "not ten percent of the men who, in 1933, took the fate of Germany into their hands, were sexually normal."

In fact, the Nazi Party began in a gay bar in Munich, and Ernst Roehm, Hitler's right hand in the early days of Nazism, was well-known for his taste in young boys. William Shirer says in his definitive "Rise and Fall of the Third Reich," not only that Roehm was "important in the rise of Hitler," but also "like so many of the early Nazis, (he was) a homosexual."...

Hitler's Brown Shirts, the dreaded SA, better known as "Storm Troopers," were the creation of another homosexual, Gerhard Rossbach, and Storm Troopers were almost exclusively homosexual. They also, sadly, comprised most of the leadership of the Hitler Youth, resulting in frequent instances of sexual molestation.

The Brown Shirts were Hitler's enforcers. According to Nazi historian Louis Snyder, Roehm recruited homosexuals into the SA because Roehm felt Germany needed "a proud and arrogant lot who could brawl, carouse, smash windows, kill and slaughter for the hell of it. Straights, in (Roehm's) eyes, were not as adept in such behavior as practicing homosexuals."

Of the Brown Shirts, historian Thomas Fuchs says, "The principle function of this army-like organization was beating up on anyone who opposed the Nazis, and Hitler believed this was a job best undertaken by homosexuals."

Historian H.R. Knickerbocker writes, "Roehm, as the head of 2,500,000 Storm Troops, had surrounded himself with a staff of perverts. His chiefs were almost without exception homosexuals. Indeed, unless a Storm Troop officer were homosexual, he had no chance of advancement."

Most of Hitler's closest aides were homosexuals or sexual deviants. This circle included not only Roehm but the Hitler Youth leader, the Minister of Justice, the Minister of Economics, Hermann Goering (who may not have been homosexual but who liked to dress in drag, paint his nails and put rouge on his cheeks), his personal attorney and his bodyguards. Hitler himself likely functioned as a male prostitute in the days of his youth in Vienna.

Heinrich Himmler, second in power only to Hitler, was publicly opposed to homosexuality but may have been a closet homosexual himself, and served Roehm faithfully and loyally until Roehm fell out of Hitler's favor. Himmler was deeply immersed in the occult, as was Hitler, which led them ultimately to replace every Christian holiday on the German calendar with a pagan counterpart...

In sum, as Lively points out, the masculine homosexual movement in Germany created the Brown Shirts, and the Brown Shirts in turn created the Nazi Party.

There of course is no question that the Nazis rounded up effeminate homosexuals and a great many of them died in slave labor camps as a result of mistreatment and disease. Historians estimate that less than one percent of Europe's homosexual community died at the hands of the Nazis. While even one such death is too many, this pales in comparison to the 85% of Europe's Jews who, unlike homosexuals, were sent to gas chambers.

Many of the guards and administrators responsible for concentration camp horrors were themselves homosexuals. Famous Nazi hunter Elie Weisel was sent to Auschwitz, where he discovered that the head of his part of the camp "loved children," and observed that "there was a considerable traffic in young children among homosexuals there."

A Nazi administrator at Treblinka, according to one historian, "had a harem of little Jewish boys" and "sought in Treblinka only the satisfaction of his homosexual instincts."...

The "Butch" homosexual guards and capos were capable of unrestrained cruelty, sadism and savagery. A guard at Auschwitz, for instance, strangled, crushed and gnawed to death as many as 100 boys and young men a day while raping them at his leisure.

Historian Frank Rector writes of a film made by the SS "that was secretly made for the enjoyment of a select coterie of Nazis showing a wild drunken orgy of beautiful boys and handsome young men being whipped, raped and murdered by the SS."...


What's the point here? Simply that there is another side to the constant refrain from homosexual activists who frequently mention the Nazi persecution of homosexuals and in so doing imply that Christians who oppose the normalization of homosexuality are in effect crypto-Nazis.

The truth is that Christians and certain portions of the homosexual community alike had much to fear from the Nazis.

As has been famously said, those who do not study history are condemned to repeat it. Nazi Germany became the horror that it was because it rejected both Christianity and its clear teaching about human sexuality. These are mistakes no sane culture should ever make again."
http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/fischer/080515

So let's see, according to homosexualists, historians William Shirer (Rise and Fall of the Third Reich), Louis Snyder, Thomas Fuchs and H.R. Knickerbocker, along with Nazi Hunter Elie Weisel and Ludwig Lenz, who worked at the Sex Research Institute in Berlin during Hitler's reign of terror, are

ALL A BUNCH OF LIARS!

[aCultureWarrior]

Sexual Deviance Fueled Nazism:
Response to [homosexualist] Christine Mueller,Reed College Oregon
By: Kevin Abrams [co-author of "The Pink Swastika"]
http://wthrockmorton.com/wp-content/...ika-abrams.pdf

[aCultureWarrior]

Throckmorton, history, and gays in the military (excerpt)

By Bryan Fischer

"Dr. Warren Throckmorton posted a column on his blog on Crosswalk.com yesterday which attacked me by name, and accused me of "vilifying" every homosexual everywhere by making historically accurate references to the role of homosexuality in Adolph Hitler's life and the rise of the Nazi Party. Apparently in Dr. Throckmorton believes that telling the truth, if it happens to be the truth about a politically-correct group he happens to favor, is sub-Christian.

I, of course, never said that all homosexuals are brutal and savage, and yet this is what Dr. Throckmorton accuses me of saying when he says that I "vilified an entire group of people." If he would like people to stop vilifying others, well, here's an opportunity for him to show us the way.

How Dr. Throckmorton feels about Christ vilifying the Pharisees by calling them a "brood of vipers" and sons "of your father the devil" he does not say. Perhaps if telling the unpleasant truth about folks is against the standard of Christ, he should first take the matter up with Christ rather than with me.

Throckmorton says that my assessment of Hitler's sexual preference is not based on "eyewitness" testimony. Yet German historian Lothar Machtan cites extensive documentation of Hitler's own homosexuality, including military records, memoirs of soldiers who served with Hitler, and police records from the early 1920s. If this kind of evidence is not sufficient for Throckmorton, one can only wonder what kind of evidence would be.

As far as the role of homosexuals in the rise of the Nazi Party, historians for decades — before homosexuality became such a touchy topic — were quite matter-of-fact about the truth that Hitler recruited and used homosexual thugs.

Here, for instance, are several excerpts from William Shirer's classic work, "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich."
"But the brown-shirted S.A...many of its top leaders, beginning with its chief, Roehm, were notorious homosexual perverts." (p. 120)

"He, who was so monumentally intolerant by his very nature, was strangely tolerant of one human condition — a man's morals. No other party in Germany came near to attracting so many shady characters. As we have seen, a conglomeration of pimps, murderers, homosexuals, alcoholics and blackmailers flocked to the party as if to a natural haven. Hitler did not care as long as they were useful to him." (pp. 121-122)

"...[T]here was a demand...that the criminals and especially the perverts be expelled from the movement. This Hitler frankly refused to do." (p. 122)

"The Munich S.A. had become notorious for the homosexual habits of Lieutenant Edmund Heines and his friends..." (p. 122)

Here is historian Louis Snyder:

"What was needed, Roehm believed, was a proud and arrogant lot who could brawl, carouse, smash windows, kill and slaughter for the hell of it. Straights, in his eyes, were not as adept in such behavior as practicing homosexuals."

Here is historian Thomas Fuchs:

"The principle function of this army-like organization was beating up anyone who opposed the Nazis, and Hitler believed this was a job best undertaken by homosexuals."

Historian H.R. Knickerbocker:

"Roehm, as the head of 2,500,000 Storm Troops had surrounded himself with a staff of perverts. His chiefs, men of rank of Gruppenfuhrer or Obergruppenfuhrer, commanding units of several hundred thousand Storm Troopers, were almost without exception homosexuals. Indeed, unless a Storm Troop officer were homosexual he had no chance of advancement."

Machtan writes credibly that Roehm was murdered in 1933 not because Hitler was offended by his homosexuality but because Roehm knew of Hitler's sexual proclivities and threatened to expose him publicly.

The Nazis also trashed and burned the Sex Research Institute, headed by the effeminate homosexual Max Hirschfeld, again not because of its link to homosexuality but because the institute contained so many damning files on the sexual inclinations of leaders in the Nazi Party.

For instance, Ludwig L. Lenz was the assistant director of the institute, and explained why the institute was the "first victim which fell to the new regime."

"The answer to this is simple...We knew too much. It would be against medical principles to provide a list of the Nazi leaders and their perversions [but]...not ten percent of the men who, in 1933, took the fate of Germany into their hands, were sexually normal...Many of these personages were known to us directly through consultations; we heard about others from their comrades in the party...and of others we saw the tragic results....Our knowledge of such intimate secrets regarding members of the Nazi Party and other documentary material — we possessed about forty thousand confessions and biographical letters — was the cause of the complete and utter destruction of the Institute of Sexology."

Throckmorton calls the link between homosexuality and the Nazis "tired and discredited." It seems more likely that Throckmorton and other propagandists for the radical homosexual agenda are themselves the ones who are tired of trying to discredit plain historical truth. It can be an exhausting thing to dedicate yourself to denying what is obvious to the objective observer. Being a Flat Earther, for instance, will just plain wear you out.

Of course, one may accept everything I've suggested about the Nazis and claim it has no relevance for today and the issue of gays in the military. I would respectfully and vigorously disagree.

According to Scripture, homosexual conduct is "contrary to nature" and "shameless" and those who engage in it "receiv(e) in themselves the due penalty for their error." (Romans 1:26, 27)

If the Scriptures are true, then we should expect to see some evidence of the shamelessness of homosexual behavior and the damaging consequences that flow from it. I would suggest that, when it comes to homosexuals in the military, Hitler and his Storm Troopers are Exhibit A..."
http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/fischer/100602

[Town Heretic]

Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

Before I continue with Bryan Fischer's response...

Fisher was noted in the response. He's an echo. And what he isn't is a serious historian.

Historian H.R. Knickerbocker writes, "Roehm, as the head of 2,500,000 Storm Troops, had surrounded himself with a staff of perverts. His chiefs were almost without exception homosexuals. Indeed, unless a Storm Troop officer were homosexual, he had no chance of advancement."

Complete and unsubstantiated nonsense. And part of the problem of the Pink Swastika's reliance, also noted in the response set out prior.

Most of Hitler's closest aides were homosexuals or sexual deviants.

Contrary to fact and practice.

If one listens to the histrionic nonsense of your revered hacks it's remarkable the German nation had produced another generation, so unbelievably widespread an epidemic of homosexuality having seized its populace.

So let's see, according to homosexualists, historians William Shirer (Rise and Fall of the Third Reich), Louis Snyder, Thomas Fuchs and H.R. Knickerbocker, along with Nazi Hunter Elie Weisel and Ludwig Lenz, who worked at the Sex Research Institute in Berlin during Hitler's reign of terror, are

ALL A BUNCH OF LIARS!

Or, as noted in the response that your "Lively and Abrams did no primary research of their own, instead using out-of-context citations of some legitimate sources while ignoring information from those same sources that ran counter to their thesis."

Your support is specious and as discredited as you should be by holding it up as something worth serious additional consideration.

[noguru]

Originally Posted by Town Heretic

Fisher was noted in the response. He's an echo. And what he isn't is a serious historian.

Complete and unsubstantiated nonsense. And part of the problem of the Pink Swastika's reliance, also noted in the response set out prior.


Contrary to fact and practice.

If one listens to the histrionic nonsense of your revered hacks it's remarkable the German nation had produced another generation, so unbelievably widespread an epidemic of homosexuality having seized its populace.



Or, as noted in the response that your "Lively and Abrams did no primary research of their own, instead using out-of-context citations of some legitimate sources while ignoring information from those same sources that ran counter to their thesis."

Your support is specious and as discredited as you should be by holding it up as something worth serious additional consideration.

You are talking to the wind. ACW is not required to follow any standards of accuracy in his reporting. He can make up and distort whatever he wants. And if you point out his inaccuracies he will just lash out at you. He is really just a whining little coward.

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Originally Posted by noguru

You are talking to the wind. ACW is not required to follow any standards of accuracy in his reporting. He can make up and distort whatever he wants. And if you point out his inaccuracies he will just lash out at you. He is really just a whining little coward.

That he is!! You're right on, about that character!!

[aCultureWarrior]

In order for people who believe in God's Word and decency to further see what they're up against, I'll provide an excerpt of an article by Cliff Kincaid of AIM (Accuracy in Media) entitled:

N.Y. Times, George Soros and the homosexual lobby take aim at Christian minister

"The New York Times, a paper supposedly devoted to freedom of speech, is giving sympathetic coverage to a lawsuit designed to silence an American Christian minister.

Scott Lively is being sued by the George Soros-funded Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR) for “crimes against humanity” for criticizing homosexuality during a trip to Uganda.

The suit represents the most extreme development yet in a Soros-funded campaign to expand rights for homosexuals and legalize prostitution in the East African country and destroy its emerging Christian culture.



Lively, who has spoken of the “The Global Threat of Homosexuality” and the “Lavender Marxists” targeting Uganda, was himself the target of protests from an ACORN-like group, Arise for Social Justice, as the suit was being filed and reported on by the Times. Lively is currently based in Massachusetts, where he runs Abiding Truth Ministries and Holy Grounds Coffee Shop, an inner-city Christian ministry which offers assistance to the poor, the homeless and the destitute.

The latter has been the subject of protests in the past from the Occupy movement.

“The lawsuit maintains that beginning in 2002, Mr. Lively conspired with religious and political leaders in Uganda to whip up anti-gay hysteria with warnings that gay people would sodomize African children and corrupt their culture,” Times “journalist” Laurie Goodstein reports.

There is nothing in the 47-page suit that provides any such evidence of a conspiracy. Instead, the suit attempts to demonize Christians in Uganda, also named in the suit, who with the help of Americans such as Lively are trying to protect their culture from foreign interests.

A major supporter of the gay rights movement, Soros and his Open Society Institute sponsored a four-day workshop in 2009 on legal strategies “to promote lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender rights in Africa,” including Uganda. The Open Society Institute acknowledged that its “Initiative for Eastern Africa” had drawn “scrutiny from conservative leaders” in Uganda “for supporting sexual minority groups.”

Contrary to what the Times reports, the real “conspiracy,” which is open for all to see, is now coming from the CCR, Arise for Social Justice, and the Times itself. They have launched an obviously coordinated attack on Lively, in an attempt to discredit and silence him. But another result could very well be more violent threats on Lively personally. Last October Lively spoke at a conference sponsored by Peter LaBarbera’s Americans for Truth about Homosexuality (AFTAH) when Marxist protesters threw a couple of bricks through the glass doors of the church where he was appearing...

Lively is a prominent scholar of the gay rights movement and understands its methods, influence, and origins. But with major homosexual advances in the media, the story does not get told. However, evidence shows that Harry Hay, the founder of the gay rights movement in the U.S., was a member of the Communist Party who believed adult sex with children should be legal. Former Obama Education Department official Kevin Jennings, who promoted a gay curriculum for the public schools, said that Harry Hay inspired him to a career of homosexual activism.


Rather than being a public interest law firm, the CCR is a hard-core left-wing legal group that defends various anti-American causes, ranging from accused Islamic terrorists to communists to Julian Assange and WikiLeaks. The group even praised Marilyn Buck, a member of the Weather Underground and Black Liberation Army, as a “human rights defender and fighter for justice.” The CCR works closely with the National Lawyers Guild, once described by a congressional committee as the “legal bulwark” of the Communist Party and still affiliated with the old Soviet-front known as the International Association of Democratic Lawyers...

Lively added, “Mostly, the lawsuit is a rehash of the argument the left has made from the beginning that my preaching against homosexuality in Uganda is the cause of persecution of homosexuals in that country. It offers a lot of out-of-context comments from my 2009 seminar in Kampala, Uganda, and includes the murder of David Kato as the most egregious example of the supposed negative consequences of my speech. The claim omits the fact that a male prostitute whom Kato had bailed out of jail to be his live-in lover confessed to bashing in Kato’s head with a hammer for failing to pay him as promised and was prosecuted for the crime.” The perpetrator, described by Ugandan police as a thief and a prostitute, was sentenced to 30 years in prison for the crime.

Kato was involved in the gay rights organization Sexual Minorities Uganda, the same Soros-supported group now suing Lively with the help of the CCR..."
http://www.worldnewstribune.com/2012...tian-minister/

Read the entire article, it's fascinating.

Are you people starting to get the picture NOW?

[zoo22]

Isn't there some sort of cut and paste rule here?

No?