[The Barbarian]

[Y]ou touted an author claiming that thinking all men are endowed with the right to freedom and dignity is "racism." (and who also praised another author who claimed that blacks are spiritually and intellectually inferior)

Ham and Ware are fine servants of the Lord.

I would think truth would be a value for "servants of the Lord."

No rebuke for Ware? He can't do anything wrong--he's black.

It's all about race for you guys, isn't it?

Too bad you Lefties (Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10 ) are obsessed with so-called race.

I notice you're the one who injected race into this thread. Your denial notwithstanding, you've got some issues with it.

[serpentdove]

Originally Posted by The Barbarian

[So-called race] "...[Y]ou've got some issues with it."

You're projecting again.

Too bad you don't believe God did what he said he did (Ge 1:1, Ge 1:26,27; 1 Co 11:7, Jas 3:9).

"Too bad." ~ Seth Brundle, The Fly

[The Barbarian]

I see your denial. But the fact that you injected race into a discussion that clearly wasn't about race, is much more convincing.

Denial won't help. Deal with whatever issues you have with race, and find a resolution for yourself. And it won't bother you any more.

[serpentdove]

Originally Posted by The Barbarian

[Racism] "I see your denial..."

You're projecting again.

Originally Posted by The Barbarian

"...Denial won't help. Deal with it, and find a resolution for yourself..."

You're projecting again.

Do you always run around calling people racists?

This police officer used the term "jungle-monkey". You called him a racist and a moron. He says he is not a racist.

Tell us why the term jungle-monkey supposedly offends you.

Do you believe that blacks come from a special (maybe less special ) monkey?

Christians know that we are made in the image (Ge 1:26,27; 1Co 11:7) and likeness of God (Ge 1:26; Jas 3:9). We believe God did what he said he did (Ge 1:1, Ge 1:26,27; 1 Co 11:7, Jas 3:9).

We are one race--the human race (Ac 17:26).

See:

One Race

[Town Heretic]

Originally Posted by serpentdove

...This police officer used the term "jungle-monkey". You called him a racist and a moron. He says he is not a racist.

He also said, "I did not intend any racial bigotry, harm or prejudice in my words."

Those words were comparing a black professor with a "banana-eating jungle monkey". So he's a liar as well as a racist.

[Wile E. Coyote]

Originally Posted by Town Heretic

He also said, "I did not intend any racial bigotry, harm or prejudice in my words."

Those words were comparing a black professor with a "banana-eating jungle monkey". So he's a liar as well as a racist.

Yes! The term "jungle monkey" is a racist term in my part of the country.

[serpentdove]

Originally Posted by Town Heretic

He also said, "I did not intend any racial bigotry, harm or prejudice in my words."

Is it possible that he was telling the truth?

[serpentdove]

Originally Posted by Wile E. Coyote

The term "jungle monkey" is a racist term in my part of the country.

Is the officer a racist?

[The Barbarian]

Serpent hisses:

You're projecting again.

You injected race into a threat that wasn't about race. Denial won't do you any good. Figure out why everything seems to be about race for you.

Do you always run around calling people racists?

I didn't call anyone a racist. I just noted that you seem to be bringing it up a lot, in threads that aren't about race.

This police officer used the term "jungle-monkey". You called him a racist and a moron.

Nope. You're confused again. Certainly, calling peoplel "jungle-monkey" would be something a racist moron might do, but I didn't say so.

He says he is not a racist.

You don't say.

Tell us why the term jungle-monkey supposedly offends you.

Didn't say it did.

Do you believe that blacks come from a special (maybe less special ) monkey?

Humans don't come from monkeys. And our particular species of ape has no biological races. Race is just a social construct in your mind.

[Town Heretic]

Originally Posted by serpentdove

Is it possible that he was telling the truth?

No, it isn't, because I also wrote (and for whatever reason you failed to include) that he compared that black professor to a "banana-eating jungle monkey".

[Wile E. Coyote]

Originally Posted by serpentdove

Is the officer a racist?

I will let God judge his heart. But the term "jungle monkey" is a racist term and one who uses it leaves himself open to accusation.

[serpentdove]

Originally Posted by The Barbarian

"Serpent hisses..."

Ad hominem

Originally Posted by The Barbarian

"Denial won't do you any good. Figure out why everything seems to be about race for you..."

If you believe that blacks came from less special monkeys, then the term jungle-monkey will supposedly offend. If you believe men are made in God's image (Ge 1:26,27; 1Co 11:7) and likeness of God (Ge 1:26; Jas 3:9) as God said they are, it will not.

Originally Posted by The Barbarian

"I didn't call anyone a racist."

Glad that's settled because unless someone gives you a reason to believe that they are a racist, there is no reason to call them one.

Originally Posted by The Barbarian

"...[C]alling people "jungle-monkey" would be something a racist moron might do, but I didn't say so."

You did here. You called the officer a racist and a moron.

Originally Posted by The Barbarian

[Tell us why the term jungle-monkey supposedly offends you.] "Didn't say it did."

You called the officer a racist and a moron because you were not offended? Tell us why you were not offended then.

Originally Posted by The Barbarian

[Do you believe that blacks come from a special (maybe less special ) monkey?] "Humans don't come from monkeys."

"Homo sapiens. A primate...People are animals...God rules out the creationist doctrine...[S]ome apes are more special than others...(Barbarian)." link

See:

Barbarian

[drbrumley]

The News isn't there to tell you something; it's there to sell you something. Liberalism, bigger government, Nanny State, higher taxes, you name it, they are selling it. And the cost is just a teeny- tiny bit of your Freedom. The TV is populated by liars or idiots. When a man puts his hand in my pocket, I don't much care if it is a lair or an idiot who pulls out a stump. I say it is time we took a head count. Who wants free government cheese and who wants a Constitutional Republic? You can't have both. You can't have half of each. Either we all pull the wagon or we all get in the wagon.

[serpentdove]

Originally Posted by Town Heretic

[Is it possible that he [the officer] was telling the truth [that he is not a racist]?] "No, it isn't..."

You know his mind more than he knows his own mind? 1 Cor 2:11

[Town Heretic]

Originally Posted by serpentdove

You know his mind more than he knows his own mind?

That's not the question. The question isn't does he know his mind, but is he being honest about it.

Your implied criticism only begins to have legs if you presume he's telling the truth. But why don't you presume he's being honest when he uses a racist's rhetoric first, before his statements find a wider audience than he intended and the consequence for his rhetoric might be a real harm to himself? Having cross examined thousands of people caught at something that required their attempting to alter the face of it to save themselves embarrassment or consequence of a more direct sort, he's unremarkable.

Now, given there's no reasonable way to read something other than racially charged garbage in his first comparing a black professor with a "banana-eating jungle monkey" I hold to my current view. What other reasoned explanation could there be in using that comparison?