Spirit and Spiritual Form: -
August 18th, 2012, 08:34 AM
John 1:1-2 KJV – 1- “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2- The ( same ) was in the beginning with God”. ----//--- What does it mean, - “The ( same ) was in the beginning with God”??? – You who are unlearned couldn’t know the answer to that, but it’s as follows: >>- John 4:24 KJV – “((( God is a Spirit ))): and they that worship him must ( worship Him in “Spirit” ) and ( in “Truth” ). ----//-- If you are to ( worship God ) you must worship ( As a creature ), not as a Creator, or Spirit!! - You are carnal, therefore you must worship God, the Creator ( Only )!!
There was ( No ) other Spirit to worship (( “In Spirit” )) ( Until Jesus was Resurrected, and taught by the “Power” of the Creator, ( The Gospel ) which is Christ and Him / Jesus Christ the ( New Creator in “Spirit” ), the New Creator of all things ( New ), including every New Creation in Him, who is the “Clay” from which all “New Things” are formed. -- All “New Things” are formed from the [[[[ ?Blood; NO!! ]]]] - ( From the “Water” that “He” also shed ) mingled with ( All Truth ). The Church / The Body of Christ is ( Now ) that “Form” of Spirit that only “Spirit” can worship in Spirit!!! -- It can’t get ( Simpler ) than that!!! ---- It’s you all who make all things SOO complicated, that everyone with their many different false teachings / doctrines on this very subject is taken (( As the Salt of the earth ))! ((( Impossible ))), It’s “Impossible” to arrive at anything Faithful, using the many, many different false doctrines covering every Truth God has spoken from the beginning!! --- God is, and was ( Spirit )!!!! – Isaiah 55:8-9 KJV – “For (( My “Thoughts” )) are ( not your “thoughts” ), neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. 9- For as the Heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and (( My “Thoughts” )) than your “thoughts”. -----//--- God is Spirit, and that “One Spirit” has “Thoughts” that (( Are His Spirit )). And those “Thoughts” or “Spirit” (((( Never had any (( Form )) until Christ was taught through the Gospel ))))!!! ----- The only other form that the “Spirit of God” had was the ( “Creation” )!!!!! --- The Total Creation was ( Formed ) from the “Spirit of God” and does ( Still Declare Himself to the Lost )!!!
The Lost ( Are Not ) created in the image of God the Father any longer!! – It’s about Jesus Christ the ( Creator, Now )!! --- The Lost are created in the image of “their father” the Devil; - God just said it, and you all are Oblivious to it / Blind to that Light!!!!
Paul – 081812
---Gal. 4:16.
---"Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth"???
John 1:1-2 KJV – 1- “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2- The ( same ) was in the beginning with God”. ----//--- What does it mean, - “The ( same ) was in the beginning with God”??? – You who are unlearned couldn’t know the answer to that, but it’s as follows: >>- John 4:24 KJV – “((( God is a Spirit ))): and they that worship him must ( worship Him in “Spirit” ) and ( in “Truth” ). ----//-- If you are to ( worship God ) you must worship ( As a creature ), not as a Creator, or Spirit!! - You are carnal, therefore you must worship God, the Creator ( Only )!!
There was ( No ) other Spirit to worship (( “In Spirit” )) ( Until Jesus was Resurrected, and taught by the “Power” of the Creator, ( The Gospel ) which is Christ and Him / Jesus Christ the ( New Creator in “Spirit” ), the New Creator of all things ( New ), including every New Creation in Him, who is the “Clay” from which all “New Things” are formed. -- All “New Things” are formed from the [[[[ ?Blood; NO!! ]]]] - ( From the “Water” that “He” also shed ) mingled with ( All Truth ). The Church / The Body of Christ is ( Now ) that “Form” of Spirit that only “Spirit” can worship in Spirit!!! -- It can’t get ( Simpler ) than that!!! ---- It’s you all who make all things SOO complicated, that everyone with their many different false teachings / doctrines on this very subject is taken (( As the Salt of the earth ))! ((( Impossible ))), It’s “Impossible” to arrive at anything Faithful, using the many, many different false doctrines covering every Truth God has spoken from the beginning!! --- God is, and was ( Spirit )!!!! – Isaiah 55:8-9 KJV – “For (( My “Thoughts” )) are ( not your “thoughts” ), neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. 9- For as the Heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and (( My “Thoughts” )) than your “thoughts”. -----//--- God is Spirit, and that “One Spirit” has “Thoughts” that (( Are His Spirit )). And those “Thoughts” or “Spirit” (((( Never had any (( Form )) until Christ was taught through the Gospel ))))!!! ----- The only other form that the “Spirit of God” had was the ( “Creation” )!!!!! --- The Total Creation was ( Formed ) from the “Spirit of God” and does ( Still Declare Himself to the Lost )!!!
The Lost ( Are Not ) created in the image of God the Father any longer!! – It’s about Jesus Christ the ( Creator, Now )!! --- The Lost are created in the image of “their father” the Devil; - God just said it, and you all are Oblivious to it / Blind to that Light!!!!
Paul – 081812
"The Bible is very clear, Christians aren't supposed to be busybodies, nor are they supposed to strive with any man who hasn't harmed him (Or someone else, by implication.)" RandPaulfor2016, May 10, 2013
God said to the Christians to “Prove all things, hold on to the Good”. – Of Course the Lost or fools can’t or won’t, because they are Lost or Fools!!
((( What do we see there )))????? -- What does it look like???
Paul – 081812
Your go around in circles in your op.
"The Bible is very clear, Christians aren't supposed to be busybodies, nor are they supposed to strive with any man who hasn't harmed him (Or someone else, by implication.)" RandPaulfor2016, May 10, 2013
Well, - I guess that proves me wrong then??? -- Have you read the Bible lately?? - Does it (( Stay on Topic )) as you desire??? -- NO!!!!!
Paul -- 081812
I think some sections of the OT go up and down like a roller coaster
with promises of good and warnings of bad, one right after the other and back again.
Regarding what you said in your opening post - that is very interesting
how you see the Lord Jesus as going through a change?
I know verses that maybe saying He changed as in He grew... Luke 2:52
And I remember how He was spoken to when He had John baptize Him.
Is this how you are seeing this?
Because I think I agree with the part where you say
"The Lost ( Are Not ) created in the image of God the Father any longer!! – It’s about Jesus Christ the ( Creator, Now )!!..."
I think some sections of the OT go up and down like a roller coaster
with promises of good and warnings of bad, one right after the other and back again.
Regarding what you said in your opening post - that is very interesting
how you see the Lord Jesus as going through a change?
I know verses that maybe saying He changed as in He grew... Luke 2:52
And I remember how He was spoken to when He had John baptize Him.
Is this how you are seeing this?
Because I think I agree with the part where you say
"The Lost ( Are Not ) created in the image of God the Father any longer!! – It’s about Jesus Christ the ( Creator, Now )!!..."
Few, if any realize it, but Jesus was conceived by the Seed of the Gospel , and that can ( never chainge ). That's why Jesus said: - I change not, and,>> Revelation 22:13 KJV - The Gospel is the same "age" / "world" as God.
Paul -- 082412
---Gal. 4:16.
---"Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth"???
All there is...is Spirit -
August 24th, 2012, 04:25 PM
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All is made of 'Spirit', for 'Spirit' is the all....of all there is.
Forms are definitive shapes, configurations, creative expressions, containments of energy and space that arise in consciousness...but 'Spirit' is the substance thru-out.
Few, if any realize it, but Jesus was conceived by the Seed of the Gospel , and that can ( never chainge ). That's why Jesus said: - I change not, and,>> Revelation 22:13 KJV - The Gospel is the same "age" / "world" as God.
Paul -- 082412
You know you may use words very abstractly.
What I mean is - if you say "parable" - the word is about an abstraction.
But you actually took that word for an abstraction and used it to identify another abstraction. What do you think about that?
All is made of 'Spirit', for 'Spirit' is the all....of all there is.
Forms are definitive shapes, configurations, creative expressions, containments of energy and space that arise in consciousness...but 'Spirit' is the substance thru-out.
pj
(((( What is (( "Spirit" )) formed of ))))????? -- Do you (( Know / "Know" ))???? - If "Spirit" exists, it must have ((( "FORM" ))). Formed of what??????? -- Every ( Form ) is ( Formed )???!!! - You cannot answer that!!!
Paul -- 082512
---Gal. 4:16.
---"Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth"???
(((( What is (( "Spirit" )) formed of ))))????? -- Do you (( Know / "Know" ))???? - If "Spirit" exists, it must have ((( "FORM" ))). Formed of what??????? -- Every ( Form ) is ( Formed )???!!! - You cannot answer that!!!
Paul -- 082512
All is Spirit; all in this world exists within consciousness. Forms, images, concepts, ideas are all made of 'consciousness' and formed thereof, since there is no other substance existing of which they could be formed.
Reality ever remains prior to anything that is formed or defined, but forms and definitions cannot exist without that originating reality.
All is Spirit; all in this world exists within consciousness. Forms, images, concepts, ideas are all made of 'consciousness' and formed thereof, since there is other substance existing of which they could be formed.
Reality ever remains prior to anything that is formed or defined, but forms and definitions cannot exist without that originating reality.
pj
That doesn’t answer the question of, “What is Spirit formed of”?? “What is the Composition of Spirit”?? - What is Spirit Composed of, or formed of?? – There is ((( Nothing Philosophical ))) about that, but that’s all you know, - just a bunch of Philosophical mumbo jumbo that doesn’t ((((( Answer ))))) anything!!!!!! – What is Spirit formed of, or what is Spirit Composed of??? -- What if I asked a question Philosophically, could anyone understand anything the Question was about????? – NO!!!!
Fit the Spirit of God and the spirit of Satan in (( Your Spirit ))!!! Let's see how you do that!!!
Paul – 082512
---Gal. 4:16.
---"Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth"???
That doesn’t answer the question of, “What is Spirit formed of”?? “What is the Composition of Spirit”?? - What is Spirit Composed of, or formed of?? – There is ((( Nothing Philosophical ))) about that, but that’s all you know, - just a bunch of Philosophical mumbo jumbo that doesn’t ((((( Answer ))))) anything!!!!!! – What is Spirit formed of, or what is Spirit Composed of??? -- What if I asked a question Philosophically, could anyone understand anything the Question was about????? – NO!!!!
Fit the Spirit of God and the spirit of Satan in (( Your Spirit ))!!! Let's see how you do that!!!
Paul – 082512
Answered already - although I left out a 'word' on accident. Here it is again...corrected (a word added)
Quote:
All is Spirit; all in this world exists within consciousness. Forms, images, concepts, ideas are all made of 'consciousness' and formed thereof, since there is no other substance existing of which they could be formed.
Reality ever remains prior to anything that is formed or defined, but forms and definitions cannot exist without that originating reality.
You will note the question has been answered, for out of the substance of consciousness all forms have come to be. If you'd like a detailed explanation of what 'spirit' is...we'll leave that to your own 'intelligence' to discern the meaning therein.
If you believe the answer was just 'mumbo jumbo', perhaps your understanding skills and metaphysical perceptions need some fine-tuning
All there is, is 'God' who is Light (all is made of this original substance of pure energy and consciousness...for no other source for it or anything exists. God is all.)
Answered already - although I left out a 'word' on accident. Here it is again...corrected (a word added)
You will note the question has been answered, for out of the substance of consciousness all forms have come to be. If you'd like a detailed explanation of what 'spirit' is...we'll leave that to your own 'intelligence' to discern the meaning therein.
If you believe the answer was just 'mumbo jumbo', perhaps your understanding skills and metaphysical perceptions need some fine-tuning
All there is, is 'God' who is Light (all is made of this original substance of pure energy and consciousness...for no other source for it or anything exists. God is all.)
pj
How can you possibly say that that answers the Question???? -- It answers it in the same way those cursed fools of the (( Liberal Political )) side of the Government answer anything!!!! - Like (( Fools )) with no Answer!!!
Paul -- 082612
---Gal. 4:16.
---"Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth"???
All there is...is Spirit -
August 24th, 2012, 04:25 PM
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