How can you possibly say that that answers the Question???? -- It answers it in the same way those cursed fools of the (( Liberal Political )) side of the Government answer anything!!!! - Like (( Fools )) with no Answer!!!
Paul -- 082612
What is provided is 'that' which already IS. What always already IS needs no proving, because it is absolute. All 'else' entertained by 'mind' and 'ego' is 'relative'.
The 'answer' is in the question, but is even 'prior' to it.
What is provided is 'that' which already IS. What always already IS needs no proving, because it is absolute. All 'else' entertained by 'mind' and 'ego' is 'relative'.
The 'answer' is in the question, but is even 'prior' to it.
pj
The wrong "here" is between you and me, and that's all "here", ( not there, or anywhere else )!!
1 Thessalonians 5:21 KJV – (((( “Prove “ALL” things )))); hold fast that which is ( Good” ). ----//--- Therefore, (( “Prove me wrong” ))!!!! - If you do, hold to what you prove to be good, because All Wrong is evil. – There is nothing evil but that which is (( Wrong ))!!
Paul – 082612
---Gal. 4:16.
---"Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth"???
(((( What is (( "Spirit" )) formed of ))))????? -- Do you (( Know / "Know" ))???? - If "Spirit" exists, it must have ((( "FORM" ))). Formed of what??????? -- Every ( Form ) is ( Formed )???!!! - You cannot answer that!!!
Paul -- 082512
Hi again Paul,
All the time I have been gone - while working and also when prepping for a possible hurricane and so forth I have been holding this post of yours in my head.
I have asked myself something I never thought about before:
What is Spirit made of?
It is a very good question for someone like me - because I won't get swallowed up. I believe the Ark of the Covenant was taken up, as I believe Elijah was. I believe they physically were made of the material of this world but I don't know what the material is of the world they went to..
As far as what God is made of, I have to think about that - perhaps His Spirit is elemental to Himself and cannot be broken down into anything simpler?
And perhaps also elemental to the physical world somehow - but He is also more, much more?
I used to think if man is genetically xy then God is a-z for infinity?
But I think now that God being Spirit is being a different substance (if that is the right word.)
Anyway may I ask - do you use parentheses because you do math equations?
I am asking because I think I am fairly good at doing prophecy scriptures and I think math is not the language of prophecy.
A physicist said once on youtube that if there were other dimensions we should be able to see certain signs of such even if we couldn't observe the dimensions themselves. I think she was speaking on the possible existence of multi-verses rather than a universe.
It was fascinating to listen to her, will try to find it if you wish.
But she made me think the spiritual may exist outside of the physical, which would render physics incapable of recognizing or defining the spiritual. I wonder?
Like everything is a big round peach but the physical is the peach skin.
We only interact and study on the peach skin level..
Does that make any sense?
All the time I have been gone - while working and also when prepping for a possible hurricane and so forth I have been holding this post of yours in my head.
I have asked myself something I never thought about before:
What is Spirit made of?
It is a very good question for someone like me - because I won't get swallowed up. I believe the Ark of the Covenant was taken up, as I believe Elijah was. I believe they physically were made of the material of this world but I don't know what the material is of the world they went to..
As far as what God is made of, I have to think about that - perhaps His Spirit is elemental to Himself and cannot be broken down into anything simpler?
And perhaps also elemental to the physical world somehow - but He is also more, much more?
I used to think if man is genetically xy then God is a-z for infinity?
But I think now that God being Spirit is being a different substance (if that is the right word.)
Anyway may I ask - do you use parentheses because you do math equations?
I am asking because I think I am fairly good at doing prophecy scriptures and I think math is not the language of prophecy.
A physicist said once on youtube that if there were other dimensions we should be able to see certain signs of such even if we couldn't observe the dimensions themselves. I think she was speaking on the possible existence of multi-verses rather than a universe.
It was fascinating to listen to her, will try to find it if you wish.
But she made me think the spiritual may exist outside of the physical, which would render physics incapable of recognizing or defining the spiritual. I wonder?
Like everything is a big round peach but the physical is the peach skin.
We only interact and study on the peach skin level..
Does that make any sense?
Now I gave myself a headache, ugh.
bb later
Those are healthy “Headaches”, - Well in a Spiritual way, anyhow.
The “What is Spirit” thing, is simple if one thinks about it just a little. – Spirit cannot have any carnal to it at all, but all carnal must be “revealed” after “Thought”, then “Word”. - (( Think )). - “Thought then Word”!! – God then Jesus. --- Isaiah 55:8-9 KJV – “For My Thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your Ways My ways, saith the LORD. 9- For as the Heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways, and My Thoughts than your thoughts”. ----//-- That is the same thing as God speaking of Jesus and the Holy Spirit / Ghost. --- Spirit is just “Thought”; the Thoughts of God, -- or of Satan. - The Devil’s thoughts indwell the “Lost”, and the Lost “speak” the carnal sin of “false doctrine” / the doctrine of the Devil / evil “words” which is the (( Work )). – There is ( no carnal action ) to anything that is Good, or Evil, only “evil words”, which is the “Work”.. God’s ( Work was -- “Speaking” - and ((( IT ))) was done / the “Work / It was done” in 6 days, --- BUT on the Seventh Day, the (( Day of Rest )) is the only Day God (( WORKED )), by ( “Planting” a Garden )!!!!! – Now I would like for some of these Geniuses to explain that to you all. – Why did God do no work in creating for six Days, just “Spoke and it all was done”, but on the (( Day of Rest )), the Seventh Day, (( God Worked by Planting a Garden )). – I think some of the false Prophets today have their ( Thoughts ) / ( Spirit ) in the Darkness, and not the Light.
My (( )) Parentheses, and such are for ( Emphasis ) to point out as strongly as I can of the most important words. - We cannot use our body and hand motions, and facial expressions to express ourselves when writing. Words alone cannot be understood, but ( need ) help slowing down the reader and pointing out the important words.
I know I haven’t hit on much of your statements but I would go too long.
Paul – 090112
---Gal. 4:16.
---"Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth"???
Paul,
Thank you!
You have hit on the most important of my statements by saying what you are thinking!
So here is one thing I would like to remind you of - only God knows our heart, right?
So sometimes we have to explain things or make them clearer - or over simplify - or anything! So I hope you will do that often for me, lol.
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Originally Posted by Letsargue
Those are healthy “Headaches”, - Well in a Spiritual way, anyhow.
Thank you, you are being kind - but I would hope so anyway.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Letsargue
The “What is Spirit” thing, is simple if one thinks about it just a little. – Spirit cannot have any carnal to it at all, but all carnal must be “revealed” after “Thought”, then “Word”.
I really like that thinking above - right from the start.
Quote:
- (( Think )). - “Thought then Word”!! – God then Jesus.
I really really like that!
Quote:
--- Isaiah 55:8-9 KJV – “For My Thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your Ways My ways, saith the LORD. 9- For as the Heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways, and My Thoughts than your thoughts”. ----//--
That is the same thing as God speaking of Jesus and the Holy Spirit / Ghost. --- Spirit is just “Thought”; the Thoughts of God, -- or of Satan.
- The Devil’s thoughts indwell the “Lost”, and the Lost “speak” the carnal sin of “false doctrine” / the doctrine of the Devil / evil “words” which is the (( Work )).
– There is ( no carnal action ) to anything that is Good, or Evil, only “evil words”, which is the “Work”.. God’s ( Work was -- “Speaking” - and ((( IT ))) was done / the “Work / It was done” in 6 days,
I think I am with you Paul on the above! And I really enjoy thinking about it.
However, I do have a question on this:
Quote:
--- BUT on the Seventh Day, the (( Day of Rest )) is the only Day God (( WORKED )), by ( “Planting” a Garden )!!!!! –
And it is like you knew I would wonder about it for you say:
Quote:
Now I would like for some of these Geniuses to explain that to you all. – Why did God do no work in creating for six Days, just “Spoke and it all was done”, but on the (( Day of Rest )), the Seventh Day, (( God Worked by Planting a Garden )).
So I am going to ask do you mean on the day God rested the garden was growing - so then by creating something that could grow and develop He was working - but He was not working?
Is this what you mean?
Or am I missing something?
Quote:
– I think some of the false Prophets today have their ( Thoughts ) / ( Spirit ) in the Darkness, and not the Light.
Paul, false prophets would indeed be in the darkness, I agree.
But even believers have to grow so they are not spiritually quickened knowing everything, for we start out as "babes."
I am not sure there are prophets like OT prophets right now - you may disagree. But the gift of prophecy spoken of in Romans is for believers. So believers may show that gift without being, imho, on the level of - say - Isaiah. Do you know what I mean?
Quote:
My (( )) Parentheses, and such are for ( Emphasis ) to point out as strongly as I can of the most important words. - We cannot use our body and hand motions, and facial expressions to express ourselves when writing. Words alone cannot be understood, but ( need ) help slowing down the reader and pointing out the important words.
Excellent, well explained - thank you. I love that.
Quote:
I know I haven’t hit on much of your statements but I would go too long.
Paul – 090112
You are great, thank you for being patient with me.
Paul,
Thank you!
You have hit on the most important of my statements by saying what you are thinking!
So here is one thing I would like to remind you of - only God knows our heart, right?
So sometimes we have to explain things or make them clearer - or over simplify - or anything! So I hope you will do that often for me, lol.
Thank you, you are being kind - but I would hope so anyway.
I really like that thinking above - right from the start.
I really really like that!
I think I am with you Paul on the above! And I really enjoy thinking about it.
However, I do have a question on this:
And it is like you knew I would wonder about it for you say:
So I am going to ask do you mean on the day God rested the garden was growing - so then by creating something that could grow and develop He was working - but He was not working?
Is this what you mean?
Or am I missing something?
Paul, false prophets would indeed be in the darkness, I agree.
But even believers have to grow so they are not spiritually quickened knowing everything, for we start out as "babes."
I am not sure there are prophets like OT prophets right now - you may disagree. But the gift of prophecy spoken of in Romans is for believers. So believers may show that gift without being, imho, on the level of - say - Isaiah. Do you know what I mean?
Excellent, well explained - thank you. I love that.
You are great, thank you for being patient with me.
No, what I said is all of it, ( But )! – No, - God Planted on the Seventh Day, the Sabbath. God planted ( on the Sabbath ), and the planting was ( “Over” ), and was ((( Being Raised ))) on Sunday Morning, the Eighth Day. – How-be-it, - it is a Shadow of the Truth. - The Eighth Day is the Day of Circumcision, or Sunday the Eighth Day, or the Day of the Resurrection of the of the Body of Christ, “OR”>>>--- Acts 2:20-21 KJV – “The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come: 21- (( And it shall come to pass )), that whosoever shall call on the name of the (( Lord shall be saved” )). -----//-- Which is the Circumcision of the flesh of all mankind who are lost!!! -- That ( Is the same thing )). The Lord’s death is a shadow of the Great and Eternal (( Day of the Lord Come, of >>> Acts 2:20-21 KJV )) – That is also the “Eighth Day”, Sunday, or the First Day of Eternith, Sunday, the Day of the New Eternal Rest, - in that respect, after the Great Judgment, and the “Second Death” for Satan and all his children. – It’s ( OVER )!!
The false prophets are indeed in darkness, but the Holy Ghost / Spirit, ( must count for something ) beyond ( Simple Learning )!!!! -- Inspiration, or Revelations ( are not learned ), but given by “Grace” along with ( The Life )!! – What is Eternal Life without eternal knowledge?? – That contradicts with Jesus ( who is that Knowledge given ) to the Saved!! – Can I be that wrong???? – Galatians 1:12 KJV -----///-- What say you of that??
SO!! – This world can just go with its god and father, the devil!! - I couldn’t care less any longer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Paul – 090212
---Gal. 4:16.
---"Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth"???
Last edited by Letsargue; September 2nd, 2012 at 07:33 PM.
No, what I said is all of it, ( But )! – No, - God Planted on the Seventh Day, the Sabbath. God planted ( on the Sabbath ), and the planting was ( “Over” ), and was ((( Being Raised ))) on Sunday Morning, the Eighth Day. – How-be-it, - it is a Shadow of the Truth. - The Eighth Day is the Day of Circumcision, or Sunday the Eighth Day, or the Day of the Resurrection of the of the Body of Christ, “OR”>>>--- Acts 2:20-21 KJV – “The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come: 21- (( And it shall come to pass )), that whosoever shall call on the name of the (( Lord shall be saved” )). -----//-- Which is the Circumcision of the flesh of all mankind who are lost!!! -- That ( Is the same thing )). The Lord’s death is a shadow of the Great and Eternal (( Day of the Lord Come, of >>> Acts 2:20-21 KJV )) – That is also the “Eighth Day”, Sunday, or the First Day of Eternith, Sunday, the Day of the New Eternal Rest, - in that respect, after the Great Judgment, and the “Second Death” for Satan and all his children. – It’s ( OVER )!!
The false prophets are indeed in darkness, but the Holy Ghost / Spirit, ( must count for something ) beyond ( Simple Learning )!!!! -- Inspiration, or Revelations ( are not learned ), but given by “Grace” along with ( The Life )!! – What is Eternal Life without eternal knowledge?? – That contradicts with Jesus ( who is that Knowledge given ) to the Saved!! – Can I be that wrong???? – Galatians 1:12 KJV -----///-- What say you of that??
SO!! – This world can just go with its god and father, the devil!! - I couldn’t care less any longer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There is only Spirit, which is the substance and source of all form. This is all there is, which includes the whole of what is invisible and visible. 'God' is all there is. All there is...is 'God'. One Light, One Being, One Mind, One Consciousness, One Spirit, One Presence. I Am that.
~*~*~
On another note, I think Lets_Argue might be less 'intrusive' and 'jarring' if he laid off on the "!!!!!!!!" (exclamtion points)...as if he were on a rampage, or some other mental fit. One can share his points rather powerfully without yelling.
There is only Spirit, which is the substance and source of all form. This is all there is, which includes the whole of what is invisible and visible. 'God' is all there is. All there is...is 'God'. One Light, One Being, One Mind, One Consciousness, One Spirit, One Presence. I Am that.
~*~*~
On another note, I think Lets_Argue might be less 'intrusive' and 'jarring' if he laid off on the "!!!!!!!!" (exclamtion points)...as if he were on a rampage, or some other mental fit. One can share his points rather powerfully without yelling.
Thank you,
pj
(( How ))???????
Paul -- 090612
---Gal. 4:16.
---"Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth"???
(( That's Called Darkness ))!!!!!!!!! - You have Truth abiding in Darkness!!!!!!! - Maybe you can worm your way (( Back up )) out of that Pit!!!!!
Paul -- 090712
A quest-ion is an inquiry sprung from the mind, it has no answers in and of its self. The Heart (the divine Self) however is its own absolute being....it has no questions, for it merely IS. The atman(atomic soul) is an individualization of Brahman ('God'). The heart is the divine center and pure awareness without beginning or end.....it is pure radiance...outshining all, yet including all.
'God' who is Light has no darkness, but 'shadows' make their appearance in the world of duality, where there is 'relativity'...and naturally so. Truth or Reality is what is absolute, here and NOW. Absolute Reality is wholly present as this Infinite "I" that I Am. Any play of duality is only a play of perception against the pure screen of awareness that observes all. God is pure Light.
My former statement of going to the source of your questions, turns one's attention to the source, the "I" itself. This "I" is the identity of Being itself, before any abstraction or distortion of the ego's perception of anything. We could call this presence 'God' if you like, or 'Spirit'. All 'forms' in existence would be somehow derived from Spirit, or that energy-consciousness from which all things are made or observed. All is energy. All is consciousness. This fact of Existence, is Self-evident.
A quest-ion is an inquiry sprung from the mind, it has no answers in and of its self. The Heart (the divine Self) however is its own absolute being....it has no questions, for it merely IS. The atman(atomic soul) is an individualization of Brahman ('God'). The heart is the divine center and pure awareness without beginning or end.....it is pure radiance...outshining all, yet including all.
'God' who is Light has no darkness, but 'shadows' make their appearance in the world of duality, where there is 'relativity'...and naturally so. Truth or Reality is what is absolute, here and NOW. Absolute Reality is wholly present as this Infinite "I" that I Am. Any play of duality is only a play of perception against the pure screen of awareness that observes all. God is pure Light.
My former statement of going to the source of your questions, turns one's attention to the source, the "I" itself. This "I" is the identity of Being itself, before any abstraction or distortion of the ego's perception of anything. We could call this presence 'God' if you like, or 'Spirit'. All 'forms' in existence would be somehow derived from Spirit, or that energy-consciousness from which all things are made or observed. All is energy. All is consciousness. This fact of Existence, is Self-evident.
pj
How do you guys do that???
A "Question" is a ( "Quest" for an answer ), or the looking for an answer ( Period )
Paul -- 090712
---Gal. 4:16.
---"Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth"???
word up...... -
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