Who can give proof or undeniable “Evidence” of the Apostle Paul’s thorn in the flesh?
Remember the witness power. Well I doubt that hardly any of you even know what that is.
Paul – 091112
This is truly a wonder. -- It seems that nobody has the slightest idea what Paul’s Thorn was. This is one of the side-track things that seems doesn’t have anything to do with anything. But once you understand what it was, and how you come by stuff like this, then you'll learn how the very deep, deeep things are arrived at. Then the True ( Love ) of the Word of Truth becomes real to you, and not just a game to play with each other.
I don’t care if you want to know what the thorn was or not, but it is amusing / music to God’s ears for someone to teach the Truth. --- So if any of you really want to know what the Thorn is; keep guessing and I’ll continue to give you witness, from God, what the evidences are until I have no more. --- It’s a real shame that nobody can say, in the name of Christ, what the Thorn was.
Paul – 091612
---Gal. 4:16.
---"Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth"???
This is truly a wonder. -- It seems that nobody has the slightest idea what Paul’s Thorn was.
Was it you? Because that would explain a few things...
If it's important and you think you know something of benefit then you should share it. If it's only the means to make yourself important in your withholding, then you should put it in a book and make it available for a love offering or some similar nonsense...you'd probably make a dollar or two.
Was it you? Because that would explain a few things...
If it's important and you think you know something of benefit then you should share it. If it's only the means to make yourself important in your withholding, then you should put it in a book and make it available for a love offering or some similar nonsense...you'd probably make a dollar or two.
I know, you just can't help yourself!!
That’s not how it done in the end. – It doesn’t matter if you knew and believed with all your heart the whole Word of God. – If then deny even the most obscure, or isolated verse in the Book. – Example: --- Even this verse, taken at random: > --- Numbers 5:1-3 KJV -------///--- Even if you have all Faith; -- and your Faith is not present to that simple verse ( “Even” ); - you ( Cannot ) be save for denying Christ!! - So it serves no purpose actually to inform anyone on such side-tracked things as the Thorn in the ((( Flesh ))) of Paul. --- God did say ( "in the Flesh" ), not in his spirit, or thoughts didn’t he?? --- Salvation started with, --- Acts 2:38 KJV –
Paul – 091612
---Gal. 4:16.
---"Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth"???
You know you'd miss me if I did. But in a way I consider this helping myself...
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That’s not how it done in the end. – It doesn’t matter if you knew and believed with all your heart the whole Word of God.
It doesn't?
So you're a works fellow then.
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– If then deny even the most obscure, or isolated verse in the Book. – Example: --- Even this verse, taken at random: > --- Numbers 5:1-3 KJV -------///--- Even if you have all Faith; -- and your Faith is not present to that simple verse ( “Even” ); - you ( Cannot ) be save for denying Christ!!
If you live subject to the law that Abraham feared, if you have not been reconciled and delivered by his sacrifice then what is it you imagine that you do, Paul...
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- So it serves no purpose actually to inform anyone on such side-tracked things as the Thorn in the ((( Flesh ))) of Paul.
Another explanation is that you don't know...or that you'd rather wave the badge of that unexpressed understanding about as though it conveyed authority and elevated you among men.
So then you'd have your reward, I suppose.
I omit the last because you said it wasn't important and you're not going to say.
You know you'd miss me if I did. But in a way I consider this helping myself...
It doesn't?
So you're a works fellow then.
If you live subject to the law that Abraham feared, if you have not been reconciled and delivered by his sacrifice then what is it you imagine that you do, Paul...
Another explanation is that you don't know...or that you'd rather wave the badge of that unexpressed understanding about as though it conveyed authority and elevated you among men.
So then you'd have your reward, I suppose.
I omit the last because you said it wasn't important and you're not going to say.
You all are the smart guys; why do I have to tell you?? - You've never accepted anything I've said yet, (( SO why should I now ))?
I just said what I said; no more, or no less!! - That's what I said!!
I suppose it's impossible for you to simply make a civil statement!!
Paul -- 091612
---Gal. 4:16.
---"Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth"???
Hi Paul!
You probably need not pay any attention to Town.
I think he is probably just waiting his reward (or award) of just (or not)deserts from Chrys
and may be a little cranky.
Eh?
You mean the stuff you don't quite actually tell us because it doesn't matter, etc.
NO!!! - You don't care what God said. - You must spit your venom at me and my proof that you're Wrong. - Anyone with a mite of knowledge knows it!!! -- But that's alright; -- you've got yours here, but ( not there ), and I know that!!!
Paul -- 091612
---Gal. 4:16.
---"Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth"???
Oh yes, doing fine. - Is the week-ins the only time you can do this?
I’ve looked and can’t find where you mentioned --- 1 Corinthians 9:5 KJV ------///--- But what’s the problem with it? – Paul is just asking a no-question. - Sure Paul had the ( "Right / Power" ) to lead about a sister or wife the same a John and Peter. - Paul had a sister and a nephew by her. I don’t see the connection. – However, Paul couldn’t ever marry a woman; that was impossible. – That doesn’t mean he couldn’t ( “lead” a ( wife ) about with him. It doesn’t suggest that he did.
Paul – 091612
Paul, I can come here oft times only a little bit at a time, several times a week.
I'm sorry if I have not been here lately - I did get caught up with a kerfuffle at another place on this forum.
Hi Paul!
You probably need not pay any attention to Town.
I think he is probably just waiting his reward (or award) of just (or not)deserts from Chrys
and may be a little cranky.
Eh?
Cranky????? - His and other's - nonsense has been going on now for about six years, ever sense I signed on here, and it ain't stopped!!! Just how they get away with it, is really an eye opener here!!!! Anyone can do the math!!
Paul -- 091612
---Gal. 4:16.
---"Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth"???
Cranky????? - His and other's - nonsense has been going on now for about six years, ever sense I signed on here, and it ain't stopped!!! Just how they get away with it, is really an eye opener here!!!! Anyone can do the math!!
Paul -- 091612
You want it to go well?
I would like for you not to be angry all the time.
Oh btw, the things I wrote about Paul and the wild beasts was to bring up what you pointed out so much better - that Paul spoke like he knew his thorn in the flesh was from God and that it was not a form of punishment and The Lord wanted Paul to accept it as it was not a punishment and His grace would also be with him..right?
Many who believe the thorn in the flesh is persecution have good points but doesn't the Lord speak of thorns when He is speaking of punishment in the OT?
And Paul's was not a punishment.
However, he never spoke like those who were attacking him were God's will, did He?
So they should consider that the thorn in the flesh was indeed God's will but the attackers were not. Do I make any sense?
Paul, I can come here oft times only a little bit at a time, several times a week.
I'm sorry if I have not been here lately - I did get caught up with a kerfuffle at another place on this forum.
Why do you say Paul could never marry a woman?
Just wondering about when you are around.
To God, the sex act ( is the "marriage" ). Not the ceremony or marriage feast. - Marriage is from the knowledge of merge, or merger, and merging / "marry". --- Paul being liken to a “Eunuch”, could not, nor had the capability of marriage.
In the righteousness of God, - Marriage, Husbands and Wives are not as the modern world would have it, which is not anything new. Both those who love each other and marry, and never ( marry ), but stay together, are the same as those who live together but do marry and bring forth children. – To God, it’s the Promise that binds the Heart, not the sex act. – It’s the marriage that God does the joining together, not the couple or the “~Mormons~”.
I think Paul just never had the time to have a ( “Wife” ) either way. >>-- 1 Corinthians 7:7 KJV ---&--- 1 Corinthians 7:29 KJV – “But this I say, brethren, the time is short: ((( it “remaineth”, that “Both” they that have “wives” ))) be as though they had none”. ------//--- Notice Paul said, “Both they that have wives”. Paul’s speaking of the married ( And ) the not married, both stay together, and both are husband and wife through promise, and do so ( as though ) they’re ( not married ).
Paul – 091612
---Gal. 4:16.
---"Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth"???
Rather, I don't get worked up much about what you have to say because you don't say much to anyone, being so busy talking AT everyone. And half of that is in code.
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- You must spit your venom at me
If you think that's venom you might need to adjust your scale...just saying.
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and my proof that you're Wrong.
To quote one of my favorite posters around here, "You've never PROven (((me))) wrong, you geniuses!
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- Anyone with a mite of knowledge knows it!!!
Is that really the way you want to qualify your position?
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-- But that's alright; -- you've got yours here, but ( not there ), and I know that!!!
Nope...it has nouns and verbs and articles and whatnot, but that's about the end of it. No idea what you mean by that. And heaven knows you'll never tell me.
You want it to go well?
I would like for you not to be angry all the time.
Oh btw, the things I wrote about Paul and the wild beasts was to bring up what you pointed out so much better - that Paul spoke like he knew his thorn in the flesh was from God and that it was not a form of punishment and The Lord wanted Paul to accept it as it was not a punishment and His grace would also be with him..right?
Many who believe the thorn in the flesh is persecution have good points but doesn't the Lord speak of thorns when He is speaking of punishment in the OT?
And Paul's was not a punishment.
However, he never spoke like those who were attacking him were God's will, did He?
So they should consider that the thorn in the flesh was indeed God's will but the attackers were not. Do I make any sense?
It’s hard to point things out about Paul. Paul wasn’t like any other cat in the neighborhood. If the enemy spit on him, Paul thought it to be good, that the evil was evil to him. Kinda like, “Come on fool, get it on”, I know who you are!!! – I think Paul knew who he was to the uttermost, and that he was so close to Jesus, he really talked to himself, if that means anything to anybody.
Jesus gave Paul his horrible thing, and Paul hated it to start with, BUT!! When he ( understood ), Paul simply joyed in it to the uttermost.
Paul – 091612
---Gal. 4:16.
---"Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth"???
Because that would explain a few things... 
But in a way I consider this helping myself... 
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