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i have doubts about the pope... but so far... not enough evidence to reject him...
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September 18th, 2012, 01:22 PM

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the Church has not accept evolution

It is a THEORY

never has been proven

never will be because man is a totally different species
Common misunderstanding. A scientific theory is not the same as "just a theory". A scientific theory is the highest degree of knowledge within science, only mathematics deals with proof. A scientific theory is a framework of ideas that best explains the relevant body of facts. The more facts a scientific theory explains, the stronger the theory is. The theory of evolution is a very strong scientific theory because it explains and makes sense of a very vast body of facts. One of the facts it explains is mankind's close genetic relationship to other species, which the theory of evolution explains through the idea of common descent.
It is impossible to successfully say that man is distinct form nature as explained by biology, the amount of evidence to the contrary is enormous.





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Common misunderstanding. A scientific theory is not the same as "just a theory". A scientific theory is the highest degree of knowledge within science, only mathematics deals with proof. A scientific theory is a framework of ideas that best explains the relevant body of facts. The more facts a scientific theory explains, the stronger the theory is. The theory of evolution is a very strong scientific theory because it explains and makes sense of a very vast body of facts. One of the facts it explains is mankind's close genetic relationship to other species, which the theory of evolution explains through the idea of common descent.
It is impossible to successfully say that man is distinct form nature as explained by biology, the amount of evidence to the contrary is enormous.
Theory of God called theology and the best is Catholic theology. Good post. tWINs





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Common misunderstanding. A scientific theory is not the same as "just a theory". A scientific theory is the highest degree of knowledge within science, only mathematics deals with proof. A scientific theory is a framework of ideas that best explains the relevant body of facts. The more facts a scientific theory explains, the stronger the theory is. The theory of evolution is a very strong scientific theory because it explains and makes sense of a very vast body of facts. One of the facts it explains is mankind's close genetic relationship to other species, which the theory of evolution explains through the idea of common descent. It is impossible to successfully say that man is distinct form nature as explained by biology, the amount of evidence to the contrary is enormous.




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so you believe as some of the saints have said down through the centuries that there is no salvation outside the Church?
That's correct, in the very specific sense outlined by the Church herself in the Catechism of the Catholic Church, pars. 846-848.

See here.



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personal experience alone tells me that i am doomed w/o Christ (His Church)

i was lost but now am found...

again, if ppl knew all i had been through

they would not bash the Catholic Church

heck, even WITH the Church...



   
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That's correct, in the very specific sense outlined by the Church herself in the Catechism of the Catholic Church, pars. 846-848.

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I am glad someone knows where to fin this stuff... I need to get a Catechism... used to have one but..



   
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Modern historians have long known that the popular view of the Inquisition is a myth (commonly known as the Black Legend, popularized in imaginative literature and the press during the 19th century). The Inquisition was actually an attempt by the Catholic Church to stop unjust executions.
Sure, and the holocaust never happened either!



   
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That's correct, in the very specific sense outlined by the Church herself in the Catechism of the Catholic Church, pars. 846-848.

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There's only salvation in Christ and what He did on the cross.
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Sure, and the holocaust never happened either!
you will always choose the protestant side of things, won't u?



   
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There's only salvation in Christ and what He did on the cross.
There is no salvation in "a church", Catholic or otherwise.
what if the RCC IS Christ's Church?

but then you have been brainwashed to not even consider such



   
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you will always choose the protestant side of things, won't u?
Only because Paoli is choosing the faith of Jesus Christ, not the faith of Vatican City. Stop trying to lead people astray.





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I am glad someone knows where to fin this stuff... I need to get a Catechism... used to have one but..
Here ya go: http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_INDEX.HTM



   
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Sure, and the holocaust never happened either!
Merely a false comparison on your part, since just as holocaust scholars know and can prove that the holocaust happened, inquisition scholars have proven that the Black Legend is just that---a legend.

You desperately need to update your information on this subject.



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