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Acts 4:10-12 KJV
Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
Luke 22:19-20 KJV to Israel:
And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me. Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.
1 Corinthians 11:24-25 KJV to Gentiles:
And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.
Acts 20:21 KJV
Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.
Acts 20:24-25 KJV
But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God. And now, behold, I know that ye all, among whom I have gone preaching the kingdom of God, shall see my face no more.
Acts 28:31 KJV Preaching the kingdom of God, and teaching those things which concern the Lord Jesus Christ, with all confidence, no man forbidding him.
Daniel
Hi and if you disagree , then explain WHAT is in the New Covenant and when it put into Operation ??
Luke 22:19-20 KJV to Israel:
And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me. Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the =new testament in my blood, which is shed for you
Daniel
20 Therefore when you come together in one place, it is not to eat the Lord’s Supper.
26 For as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death till He comes.
27 Therefore whoever eats this bread or drinks this cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of the body and blood[d] of the Lord. 28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of the bread and drink of the cup. 29 For he who eats and drinks in an unworthy manner eats and drinks judgment to himself, not discerning the Lord’s body. 30 For this reason many are weak and sick among you, and many sleep.
20 Therefore when you come together in one place, it is not to eat the Lord’s Supper.
26 For as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death till He comes.
27 Therefore whoever eats this bread or drinks this cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of the body and blood[d] of the Lord. 28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of the bread and drink of the cup. 29 For he who eats and drinks in an unworthy manner eats and drinks judgment to himself, not discerning the Lord’s body. 30 For this reason many are weak and sick among you, and many sleep.
Slogan/motto:
Being led into relationships by urgings of love which arise and are sustained naturally and spontaneously within my heart, is always 'God-righteous' even if I have to transgress the Ten Commandments.
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October 3rd, 2012, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by DAN P
Hi, explain WHAT is in the New Covenant and when it put into Operation ??
dan p
Good question.
Indeed what is the point of anything if one does not actually know what is the New Covernant or New Testamant and when it was put in place.
The New Covernant was in place in the begining. It was displaced when Adam fell from Grace. Then Moses gave the law and the Old Testament. The Old Testamant does not enable one to return to the status of the original Adam. Then the 'New Testamant' was reintroduced soon after the event of Jesus crucifixion. The New Testamant required and requires one to drop the Old Testamant. The reintroduction of the New Testamant make it possible for humans to return to the status of the original Adam.
What is the New Covernant?
1 John: 2 verse: 7 Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning.
Hearing the word as Adam did in the begining is also the New Covernant or the New Testament.
How does one hear the word as Adam did in the begining?
1 Corinthians: 2 verses: 9 to 14 seems to confirm how one hears the word as Adam did.
One has to become 'born again' and achive personal direct intutive commmunion with the Spirit of Jesus within one's own heart or spirit. This Spirit passes all Truth or the Word to one intuitively through one's own heart or spirit.
1 Corinthians: 2 verses: 9 to 14 confirm that the word does not come from physically hearing or physically reading.
The books called the Old Testamant and the New Testament provide information through one's flesh or physical side, i.e. thropugh physical hearing and physical reading. These cannot and do not provide the Word for anyone who is a restored Adam. The Word can come to one only through the none physical intuitive path way through one's own spirit from the Spirit of Jesus. One's word from God often requires one to transgress the ideals and laws as physically written in O.T. and N.T. .
To be led into one's works by the Word which is discerned intuitively within one's own heart from the Spirit of Jesus in real tme, all the time is to be 'in Christ'. One in Christ has God given freedom, liberty and justification to transgress all social, moral and religious ideals and laws, including the Ten commandments and not get sin.
Last edited by Gurucam; October 3rd, 2012 at 03:36 PM.
Hi , and many believers read 1 Cor 11:24-25 , and see the words " NEW TESTAMENT " which is the Greek word DIATHEKE and say that Paul taught the New Covenant !!
If you say that Paul taught the NEW COVENANT/DIATHEKE , than explain when the New Covenant will be put into Operation ??
DIATHEKE has more than one meaning !!
If , Paul taught the New Covenant , then give book , ch. and verse , please !!
Slogan/motto:
"Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God."-1 Cor. 10:31 KJV
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October 3rd, 2012, 06:11 PM
Matthew 24 KJV
20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
Acts 18:21 KJV
But bade them farewell, saying, I must by all means keep this feast that cometh in Jerusalem: but I will return again unto you, if God will. And he sailed from Ephesus.
"early Acts":Pentecost(Leviticus 23:6 KJV)...going to the temple.....
Slogan/motto:
Being led into relationships by urgings of love which arise and are sustained naturally and spontaneously within my heart, is always 'God-righteous' even if I have to transgress the Ten Commandments.
Reputation:
October 4th, 2012, 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by DAN P
Hi , and many believers read 1 Cor 11:24-25 , and see the words " NEW TESTAMENT " which is the Greek word DIATHEKE and say that Paul taught the New Covenant !!
If you say that Paul taught the NEW COVENANT/DIATHEKE , than explain when the New Covenant will be put into Operation ??
DIATHEKE has more than one meaning !!
If , Paul taught the New Covenant , then give book , ch. and verse , please !!
dan p
Jesus told his disciples: it is expedient that I go away physically so that the Spirit of Truth will come and bring All Truth.
Therefore bringing All Truth is the mission of the Spirit of Truth. Jesus is confirming the revelation in 1 Corinthians: 2 verses: 9 to 14. Jesus did not bring Truth though his physically spoken words. Truth cannot come though that pathway. Only the Spirit of Truth can bring Truth to humans and only intuitively throught their individual hearts or spirits directly from the Spirit of Truth.
Jesus is the Truth, therefore His Spirit is the Spirit of Truth.
After the event of Jesus' death on the cross and his rise to heaven, God sent Jesus back among those under the law a second time. This time God sent Jesus in His Spirit which is the Spirit of Truth. Jesus is the Truth in the Spirit of Truth. God sent the Spirit of Jesus into the hearts of those under the laws so that they might get All Truth, be led by Truth and so become adopted children of God. i.e. people under grace of God.
We are told to search our hearts to know what the Spirit of Jesus has in mind for us to pray for say and do and be led into all our works by this in real time, all the time. This makes us children of God, i.e. humans who are saved and delivered.
How can breaking and eating bread and drinking wine save and deliver anyone? At best that can can being one onto rembrance of Jesus and may be, faith (i.e. belief in this not physically detected).
Are you prepared to simply eat wafers and drink wine and assume that you are saved and delivered whiles ignoring and throwing away all of the following:
"Jesus told his disciples: it is expedient that I go away physically so that the Spirit of Truth will come and bring All Truth.
Therefore bringing All Truth is the mission of the Spirit of Truth.
Jesus is the Truth, therefore His Spirit is the Spirit of Truth.
After the event of Jesus' death on the cross and his rise to heaven, God sent Jesus back among those under the law a second time. This time God sent the Jesus in His Spirit which is the Spirit of Truth. Jesus is the Truth in the Spirit of Truth. God sent the Spirit of Jesus into the hearts of those under the laws so that they might become get All Truth, be led by Truth and so become adopted children of God. i.e. people under grace of God.
We are told to search our hearts to know what the Spirit of Jesus has in mind for us to pray for, say and do and be led into all our works by this in real time, all the time. This makes us children of God, i.e. humans who are saved and delivered."
We are told that even those who received the first fruit of the Spirit coontinue to groan in waiting for the adoption (as children of God).
This adoption is based on hope in the none physical Spirit of Jesus whioch God sent into humans hearts or spirits. Then we are told to search our hearts etc. etc.
This is how one seek ye first the kingdom of God within one's own heart. Then all things, including Truth, salvation, deliverance etc. will be added.
Did you seek ye first the kingdom of God within your own heart or did you seek the kingdom of God through Peter/Satan and/or in other places, like in the physically written and physically spoken scriptures?
Last edited by Gurucam; October 4th, 2012 at 03:22 PM.
Why didn't they get sick and die? That is part of the new covenant.
Luke 22:19-20 KJV to Israel:
And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me. Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.
1 Corinthians 11:24-25 KJV to Gentiles:
And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.
Acts 20:21 KJV
Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.
Acts 20:24-25 KJV
But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God. And now, behold, I know that ye all, among whom I have gone preaching the kingdom of God, shall see my face no more.
Acts 28:31 KJV
Preaching the kingdom of God, and teaching those things which concern the Lord Jesus Christ, with all confidence, no man forbidding him.
Galatians 3:8 KJV
And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.
The Gospel is the New Testament/Covenant, and is the promise of the Kingdom.
2 Corinthians 5:16 KJV
Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.
[quote=Dan Emanuel;3234465]Luke 22:19-20 KJV to Israel:
And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me. Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.
1 Corinthians 11:24-25 KJV to Gentiles:
And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.
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Hi , and I see that you have quoted Luke 22:19-20 and 1 Cor 11:24-25 !!
Luke 22:19-20 speaks to a Jewish CONTEXT !!
Luke 22:13 speaks of the PASSOVER , which is Jewish Feast Day along with the New Covent !!
1 Cor 11:24-25 , speaks to the Body of Christ with different guide lines as to the Protocals and verses 26-34 show that is different from Luke 22:19-20 !!
Are you saying that these 2 books are speaking about the same , THING ??
October 3rd, 2012, 02:13 PM
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