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October 3rd, 2012, 10:24 PM

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I have a really difficult time even considering voting for a multimillionaire who believes that Joseph Smith received a divine translation of tablets in the early 1820's. A buried book of golden plates inscribed with a Judeo-Christian history of ancient American civilizations. In 1830, he published what he said was an English translation of these plates as the Book of Mormon
Are you looking for a pastor or a president Eeset?





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October 3rd, 2012, 10:25 PM

Romney believes he will be..... well what does he really believe?



   
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October 3rd, 2012, 10:31 PM

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Romney believes he will be..... well what does he really believe?
I could really care less about his religious preference, sure I would love it if he was a Christian and with that said do you really know what Obama believes? neither do I but, I do know he has been absolutely horrible for this nation. I am not looking for a pastor, I am looking for a president, a leader, a person that can move this country in the opposite direction, Obama is not that person, clearly.





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October 3rd, 2012, 10:36 PM

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Romney believes he will be..... well what does he really believe?
Then you like the black liberation theology of obama better which teaches this:

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[Black Theology and Black Power, Page 143]



   
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October 3rd, 2012, 10:46 PM

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I could really care less about his religious preference, sure I would love it if he was a Christian and with that said do you really know what Obama believes? neither do I but, I do know he has been absolutely horrible for this nation. I am not looking for a pastor, I am looking for a president, a leader, a person that can move this country in the opposite direction, Obama is not that person, clearly.
The problem is that the republicans offer us a worse alternative. It is all a shame.



   
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October 3rd, 2012, 11:03 PM

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The problem is that the republicans offer us a worse alternative. It is all a shame.
How do you know?



   
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October 3rd, 2012, 11:36 PM

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Republicans will think so...a lotta needy Americans will not feel convinced.
A lot of liberals thought O was crushed, too.

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I don't agree with either one of them, both sides are ripping america apart with their policies, just from different ends.





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October 3rd, 2012, 11:39 PM

Romney looked confident ... and competent. He definitely won the first debate without a doubt ... and I predict that this is just the beginning. He was so right when he shared: This election is not just a choice between himself and the President ... but about what direction our country plans to take.

The President often just rambled ... mentioning so many topics within his reply to a specific question that it was confusing.

Also, can't wait to see the Ryan / Biden debate!



   
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October 4th, 2012, 03:19 AM

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October 4th, 2012, 05:10 AM

I thought Romney won. He seemed more assertive and in control. He seemed to be able to get some good attacks out there. I was surprised he did as well as he did.

The $5 trillion in tax cuts for Romney might come back to hurt him. I was flipping through channels watching analysis after the debate and one thing Brit Hume said is that Romney didn't explain how or why his plan wouldn't have that $5 trillion cut, we just have to take Romney's word for it, and that might not be enough. I do think Romney should have explained that better. Him and Obama just kept going back and forth on it.


A couple moments I chuckled at. At one point Romney mentioned "poor kids" but then quickly changed it to "lower income".

Also, during the health insurance section Obama made a comment about how private insurance companies have to make a profit, and then he quickly added, "not that there's anything wrong with that". I had to think of that one Seinfeld episode.


When I get home tonight I want to look for some Fact Check articles on the debate so I can figure out how many lies were told.





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October 4th, 2012, 06:01 AM

I may be wrong here, so help me understand something...

Isn't Romney proposing to let the states handle their own healthcare, saying they can do a better job of it than can the federal government? And didn't he use his own state as an example to prove his point?

If I'm right in that summary, then didn't he ALSO begin laying out how the federal government would provide for healthcare for its citizens? How can he say he wants to leave it to the states while ALSO handling it at the federal level?

What did I miss?





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October 4th, 2012, 06:11 AM

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I'm not republican and i dont like romney or obama.

Romney killed Obama in that debate and made him look like the apologetic weak submissive thing he is. Anyone who is honest knows who won that.

If truth and consistency are important to you - Obama won

If truth and consistency are not important to you - Romney won


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Instant Polls Go For Romney... Mitt Walked Back Multiple Positions... Denied His Own Tax Plan... Dodged Almost Every Point In The Right-Wing Canon'...No Mention Of 47%... Or Immigration, Bain, Libya, Offshore Accounts...

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October 4th, 2012, 06:19 AM

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Obama was honest. Romney was trying to kidglove the undecided. Trying to win the middle ground.
Here was my email to the President after the debate

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Trying to debate Gov Romney is like trying to nail jello to the wall but nail him you must if people are to see the truth of what this snake oil salesman is selling to the American people.

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