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Advice for the Theologically Burned-Out - June 9th, 2013, 07:01 PM

I used to be a lot more into theological discussion than I am now. I used to be passionate about it.

Some time ago, a confrontation happened here on this site that bloodied my nose a little and caused me to doubt. . . well, everything. Looking back, I shouldn't have let things get to me as much as I did. The chink in my armor came in the form of someone from my past who'd tracked me to this site (I made the questionable choice of going by my real name, back then.) The net effect of the encounter was self-doubt followed by several years of theological freefall.

Now, I'm desiring, if not to get back to where I once was, to at least regain that passion I once had. Any ideas where to start?





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June 9th, 2013, 07:05 PM

Start with your passion for God...it will naturally flow from there



   
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June 9th, 2013, 07:08 PM

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I used to be a lot more into theological discussion than I am now. I used to be passionate about it.

Some time ago, a confrontation happened here on this site that bloodied my nose a little and caused me to doubt. . . well, everything. Looking back, I shouldn't have let things get to me as much as I did. The chink in my armor came in the form of someone from my past who'd tracked me to this site (I made the questionable choice of going by my real name, back then.) The net effect of the encounter was self-doubt followed by several years of theological freefall.

Now, I'm desiring, if not to get back to where I once was, to at least regain that passion I once had. Any ideas where to start?


Here?

Now?


Give me a goofy theological opinion to attack.





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June 9th, 2013, 07:10 PM

sorry - that came off more flip than i meant


what do you like to discuss?





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June 9th, 2013, 07:10 PM

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I used to be a lot more into theological discussion than I am now. I used to be passionate about it.

Some time ago, a confrontation happened here on this site that bloodied my nose a little and caused me to doubt. . . well, everything. Looking back, I shouldn't have let things get to me as much as I did. The chink in my armor came in the form of someone from my past who'd tracked me to this site (I made the questionable choice of going by my real name, back then.) The net effect of the encounter was self-doubt followed by several years of theological freefall.

Now, I'm desiring, if not to get back to where I once was, to at least regain that passion I once had. Any ideas where to start?
Been there, I overcame it, you can too.
Pray, listen and learn like we ll do.
We are all in the same boat trying to get to the other side.
Join us on our trip.





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Joh 4:23 "But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers.

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June 9th, 2013, 07:10 PM

Paul in Romans wrote, "I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in." What is "the fulness of the Gentiles"?



   
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June 9th, 2013, 07:40 PM

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I used to be a lot more into theological discussion than I am now. I used to be passionate about it.

Some time ago, a confrontation happened here on this site that bloodied my nose a little and caused me to doubt. . . well, everything. Looking back, I shouldn't have let things get to me as much as I did. The chink in my armor came in the form of someone from my past who'd tracked me to this site (I made the questionable choice of going by my real name, back then.) The net effect of the encounter was self-doubt followed by several years of theological freefall.

Now, I'm desiring, if not to get back to where I once was, to at least regain that passion I once had. Any ideas where to start?
Start in the faith in simple things with the personal Jesus, without debate which often leads to arguing about nothing of much value.

If possible find fellowship with the likes of ---

Act 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Act 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
Act 2:40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
Act 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
Act 2:42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.
Act 2:43 And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles.
Act 2:44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
Act 2:45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
Act 2:46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
Act 2:47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

but when you find them, do not wreck it with theological arguements. Just listen for what the Lord says to you.

However one can at anytime start with a fellowship of two and do the same as above.

In time it will grow in quality, and then in number, not the other way round.


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June 9th, 2013, 07:49 PM

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I used to be a lot more into theological discussion than I am now. I used to be passionate about it.

Some time ago, a confrontation happened here on this site that bloodied my nose a little and caused me to doubt. . . well, everything. Looking back, I shouldn't have let things get to me as much as I did. The chink in my armor came in the form of someone from my past who'd tracked me to this site (I made the questionable choice of going by my real name, back then.) The net effect of the encounter was self-doubt followed by several years of theological freefall.

Now, I'm desiring, if not to get back to where I once was, to at least regain that passion I once had. Any ideas where to start?
I understand where you are coming from. I guess the question to ask yourself is what your purpose when you enter a discussion/debate. Over the years I have observed that people get involved in Internet debates, not to share or exchange ideas, but just to prove someone wrong and belittle them when they don't come around to your way of thinking. You see that often here at TOL. But I have seen it across many types of discussion boards. This cartoon says it all.






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June 9th, 2013, 08:31 PM

Make Christ your focus and spend time in prayer and in the scripture. That will help you keep your bearings. I recently had a goof up and free fall. My foundation helped me to recover quickly.



   
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June 9th, 2013, 08:45 PM

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Make Christ your focus and spend time in prayer and in the scripture. That will help you keep your bearings. I recently had a goof up and free fall. My foundation helped me to recover quickly.
▲This▲ I was just about to type the same thing.

Get your bible and start on a passage. When I was a younger believer, I'd grab Navigator books and work through a book of the bible answering questions but there are some free materials online you could download too.

Spend about 15 minutes at least a day reading and then, however long you can, praying.

The Lord's Prayer is a good model:
Quote:
Mat 6:9 Our Father, who is in Heaven, Hallowed be Your name.
Adoration - Telling Him what He means to you and what you appreciate and love of Him.

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Mat 6:10 Your kingdom come, Your will be done, on earth as it is in Heaven.
Meditation - Looking for what He has taught you in scripture today, etc. It is listening to God and looking for His agenda such as "Lord, what would you have me do today? What is your world agenda?"
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Mat 6:11 Give us this day our daily bread;
Supplication - asking prayers
Quote:
Mat 6:12 and forgive us our debts as we also forgive our debtors.
Intercession - praying about getting it right with brothers and sisters
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Mat 6:13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil. For Yours is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, forever. Amen.
Guidance

For me, I like to walk and talk and get in nature if I can during the praying portion. Just getting outside for a few minutes alone on a starry night and praying can help focus my prayer time. I'm not too far from the beach and can see a portion of the water from my home too.





Omniscient without man's say or qualification. John 1:3 "Nothing"
Colossians 1:17 "Nothing" John 15:5 "Nothing"
Mighty, ALL mighty (omnipotent). Revelation 1:8
No possible limitation other than in man's wishful finite inanity Isaiah
40:25 Joshua 24:15
Infinite (Omnipresent) Psalm 145:3 Hebrews 4:13

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June 10th, 2013, 04:00 AM

Idolater.

Paul in Romans wrote, "I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in." What is "the fulness of the Gentiles"?
It is explained in my thread: "Expounding Romans 11:25,26"



   
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June 10th, 2013, 04:34 AM

Avoid trolls.





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June 10th, 2013, 05:49 AM

People who believe that they chose Jesus of their own freewill and serve Him thus are easily stumbled in this way. None of us can possibly live up to the charge "you say you are a christian...but you did this or you did that inconsistency"

My only claim on God is His grace toward me a sinner, He had mercy, He saved me. That's it folks, nobody can throw down this testimony, no devil in hell can make me doubt. My testimony defeats all who would come against me or accuse me.

Therefore come out of freewill salvation and freewill service and discipleship...get FREE.

My only message to others is let Jesus set YOU free.





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Now, I'm desiring, if not to get back to where I once was, to at least regain that passion I once had. Any ideas where to start?
Let go of the "armor". You don't need to fight with anyone. Just be honest, and share your experience, strength and hope with people. And understand that it's up to them if and how they choose to take it.

We're glad you're here.



   
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June 10th, 2013, 06:10 AM

you don't have to respond to every post
even if it is about catholic
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