[Brother Vinny]

notto,

In the examples you gave-- a snowflake, a rock crystal, a spherical rock-- you only gave examples of symmetry appearing in nature, not design. Form without funtion, as it were.

As for the "face on Mars," it is interesting that you fall back on a thoroughly debunked hoax for support. Is this how all "scientists" work?

Now, I personally don't like arguing from design when talking to an atheist. Someone irrationally attatched to their atheism, as JGaltJr is, will not see a god behind the design of living species no matter how many examples are given. And arguing design with an atheist carries the false implication that the atheist can do such things as reason, make value judgments, etc., independent of the light of reason given by God.