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work out your salvation with fear and trembling - Phil 2:12 - June 20th, 2012, 09:56 AM

Doesn't this say it all

as far as eternal security is concerned?

salvation is an ongoing thing

not a one time event



   
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June 20th, 2012, 09:57 AM

Phil 2:13 (KJV)





1. Land forever. Gen 17:8 (KJV)
2. City FROM heaven. Rev 21:2 (KJV)
3. Heavenly places. Eph 2:6-7(KJV)


Don't mix them, leavening the whole household of God. Luke 13:21 (KJV)
   
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June 20th, 2012, 09:59 AM

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Phil 2:13 (KJV)
is this supposed 2b a contradiction

or a psg that supports eternal security?

i did not argue that it is God who does the work

but if someone does not cooperate w/ God's work...



   
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June 20th, 2012, 10:20 AM

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salvation is an ongoing thing
When's the last time you trembled while working out your salvation?





1. Land forever. Gen 17:8 (KJV)
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June 20th, 2012, 10:22 AM

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When's the last time you trembled while working out your salvation?
in the Real Presence of Christ

found in the Catholic Church



   
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June 20th, 2012, 11:33 AM

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in the Real Presence of Christ

found in the Catholic Church
what work were you doing there?





1. Land forever. Gen 17:8 (KJV)
2. City FROM heaven. Rev 21:2 (KJV)
3. Heavenly places. Eph 2:6-7(KJV)


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June 20th, 2012, 12:17 PM

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Doesn't this say it all

as far as eternal security is concerned?

salvation is an ongoing thing

not a one time event

Work out your own salvation does not mean that you should work for your salvation in order to obtain it. The Greek phrase "work out" denotes the expression, manifestation, or actualization of something one already posses. The Philippians are to "work out" the salvation God has already wrought out for them carrying it to its logical conclusion. God has already granted them salvation not for just their own profit, but for the good of others as well. If they work it out and manifest the new life divinely worked in them, they will live lives worthy of the Gospel, in harmony with each other, seeking the progress of the Gospel. (Taken from my Bible notes)



   
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June 20th, 2012, 02:16 PM

The passage is not about "spiritual/soul" salvation, as this cain has been shown over and over again.





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June 21st, 2012, 10:02 AM

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what work were you doing there?
cooperating with Jesus who did most of the work

to get me "ironed out"

so i dont believe the devil / his followers

or listen to them

or react according to them (but according to HIM)

(although to some extent, as long as i am in this crummy world, i will always have a struggle with... those entitites... just nice to know that when i am with HIM, the devil and his followers are conquered... But out ther... yikes..)



   
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June 21st, 2012, 10:05 AM

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Work out your own salvation does not mean that you should work for your salvation in order to obtain it. The Greek phrase "work out" denotes the expression, manifestation, or actualization of something one already posses. The Philippians are to "work out" the salvation God has already wrought out for them carrying it to its logical conclusion. God has already granted them salvation not for just their own profit, but for the good of others as well. If they work it out and manifest the new life divinely worked in them, they will live lives worthy of the Gospel, in harmony with each other, seeking the progress of the Gospel. (Taken from my Bible notes)
i will take the Church's interpretation. heck, i am not even so sure i fully u/stand yours...

but hey

at least there wasn't any hate in this post...

unless i was 2 distracted (in a hurry) to see it...



   
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June 25th, 2012, 05:09 PM

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The passage is not about "spiritual/soul" salvation, as this cain has been shown over and over again.
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June 25th, 2012, 05:10 PM

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Work out your own salvation does not mean that you should work for your salvation in order to obtain it. The Greek phrase "work out" denotes the expression, manifestation, or actualization of something one already posses. The Philippians are to "work out" the salvation God has already wrought out for them carrying it to its logical conclusion. God has already granted them salvation not for just their own profit, but for the good of others as well. If they work it out and manifest the new life divinely worked in them, they will live lives worthy of the Gospel, in harmony with each other, seeking the progress of the Gospel. (Taken from my Bible notes)
you really know how to twist scripture to get it to say waht u want

the psg is CLEAR

and it conforms w/ other psgs in saying there is NO osas



   
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June 26th, 2012, 04:20 PM

work out your salvation

even St Paul did not say he was eternally saved...

he said he wasn't aware of anything

but... (etc)

dont know where to fidn it but he says something to the effect that
he is not his own final judge... (tho he is not aware of any sin that would hinder)



   
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June 26th, 2012, 04:21 PM

work out your salvation

even St Paul did not say he was eternally saved... he said he wasn't aware of anything

but... (etc)

dont know where to fidn it but he says something to the effect that
he is not his own final judge... Th Lord is (tho he is not aware of any sin or stain of sin that would hinder)



   
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June 27th, 2012, 04:47 PM

i guess that last post

puts an end to argument



   
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