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September 30th, 2012, 04:07 PM

The idea is to vote your principles, from among candidates that embody those principles. The idea that only the Reps or Dems represent 'my' principles is to force me into voting for candidates which are less than ideal. We have seen a seamless transition from one political party to the next , both however, are leading the nation to a point of change dramatically different from what the ideals of Liberty and freedom could support. One fine example, under a Rep Pres., you were given the Patriot Act, under a Dem Pres., you will be given Unlimited Internment. The political machines are simply completing a puzzle each one doing their part to fill in the necessary pieces, some of us can already make out what that puzzle looks like and do not like the image.



   
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September 30th, 2012, 04:36 PM

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why can't you determine the better choice?
I can. But you don't mean that. You mean why don't I choose between the two candidates most likely to win. I've answered you on that point already.





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September 30th, 2012, 05:10 PM

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I can. But you don't mean that. You mean why don't I choose between the two candidates most likely to win. I've answered you on that point already.
now you are telling me what I mean

please allow me to tell you what I mean

which of the two do you want to be president next year?





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September 30th, 2012, 05:29 PM

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now you are telling me what I mean
Well, I started by telling you what you couldn't mean, if you were reading my actual responses. The rest followed.

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which of the two do you want to be president next year?
Neither. I was clear about that too.





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October 1st, 2012, 03:39 AM

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I can. But you don't mean that. You mean why don't I choose between the two candidates most likely to win. I've answered you on that point already.
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now you are telling me what I mean

please allow me to tell you what I mean

which of the two do you want to be president next year?
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Well, I started by telling you what you couldn't mean, if you were reading my actual responses. The rest followed.


Neither. I was clear about that too.
yes you did start by telling me what I didn't mean
but
you also finished by saying what I did mean

is that clear?





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yes you did start by telling me what I didn't mean
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you also finished by saying what I did mean

is that clear?
It's clear that you weren't clear. What does the rest matter? In a want of clarity I gave you the more rational reading, the one that didn't assume without justification that I either couldn't recognize a difference/have a preference between the two major candidates or that recognizing a difference/having a preference between the two would for some reason necessitate my actually supporting either of them.





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It's clear that you weren't clear. What does the rest matter? In a want of clarity I gave you the more rational reading, the one that didn't assume without justification that I either couldn't recognize a difference/have a preference between the two major candidates or that recognizing a difference/having a preference between the two would for some reason necessitate my actually supporting either of them.
this is why you don't listen to what they say
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watch what they do
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October 1st, 2012, 07:34 AM

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this is why you don't listen to what they say
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watch what they do
Not mutually exclusive propositions.

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Not mutually exclusive propositions.


Self contradict much?
when you play the race card
that
is an example of what you do
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you are so caught up with protecting baby killers
that
you don't even realize you are doing it
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October 1st, 2012, 12:42 PM

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this is why you don't listen to what they say
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watch what they do
Just curious, how many times do you think you've said:

"Romney said he would appoint judges like

Scalia
Thomas
Roberts
Alito"





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Just curious, how many times do you think you've said:

"Romney said he would appoint judges like

Scalia
Thomas
Roberts
Alito"
I would guess about four times
but
I will repeat it every time someone says he won't do anything about abortion





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when you play the race card
Still don't get it then. You decided to distinguish your part from women and make sex the issue. I was illustrating the deficiency of your division. You could and should more readily distinguish between the largest of your group, white men and the rest. You could then say to the majority of minorities what you say to the women.

You made a stupid comment that merited a hard response.

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is an example of what you do
Call you out on an insufficiency of consideration? Absolutely.

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you are so caught up with protecting baby killers
I am not. But you are demonstrably desperate in this. And irrational.

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you don't even realize you are doing it
And you're inconsistent.

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will use whatever it takes to accomplish your ends
You mean unknowingly, almost accidentally then. I wonder if even you believe what you write these days...I hope so. Someone should.





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October 4th, 2012, 03:05 AM

looking forward to how bigbang123 spins the debate

he must be waiting for the memo





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October 4th, 2012, 06:15 AM

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looking forward to how bigbang123 spins the debate

he must be waiting for the memo
Sorry, I'm late - just got the memo

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If truth and consistency are important to you - Obama won

If truth and consistency are not important to you - Romney won


Headlines

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actually this is earlier than normal





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