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love others as u love yourself... and thank God you dont have to like them
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September 18th, 2012, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by seekinganswers
I need to cite to you the Exodus 32 incident of the Israelites at the base of Mt. Sinai? That's a pretty explicit scriptural reference the last time I checked. And that is what I used to refute TruthSetsFree's claims that the Roman Church has the right to "invent" things when it comes to worship. Seems to me you need to a look a lot more closely than you have.
Peace,
Michael.
dont put words in my mouth. i did not choose the word Invent
and u know it
the Catholic
Church is protected and guided by Jesus Christ Himself
"Whatever you do [do not do] to the least of My brethren, you do [do not do] to [for] Me" - Mt 25:31
dont put words in my mouth. i did not choose the word Invent
and u know it
the Catholic
Church is protected and guided by Jesus Christ Himself
You chose to use the word invent because of the way I had defined it. Whether you want to use this word or not is beside the point. Aaron was most certainly the high priest of Israel in Exodus 32. There he as high priest took it upon himself to lead the people to worship their one true God through a golden calf (in the ways of the peoples around them). That act would have cost them not only their lives but their membership in the people of God (God threatened to wipe them off the face of the earth for what they had done).
Rome does not have more authority than Aaron did, and yet you have claimed it does. Such claims to authority are blasphemous, because only God stands above all (not Rome or anyone else). The God of Israel (revealed through Israel's Messiah) is the one above reproach; not Rome or any other emissary of God on earth. Even Christ recognized this and submitted to the will of his heavenly father. If the Church fails to take on that mantle, then it has committed the very same sin as Aaron before them.
I thought the Bible told people to be HUMBLE and GENTLE in speech.
She is a perfect example of the Attitude of the Roman Church.
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TSF said that Jesus is guiding her church.
Does that mean that JESUS told the Roman Catholic Church to
Torture and Burn alive those Innocent people who disagreed
with your pagan policies as the RC church has done in the past?
Only a Brainwashed person would believe such a thing.
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"The Chief End of Me Is To Love GOD & Enjoy Him Forever!"
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September 19th, 2012, 01:27 AM
A POEM DEDICATED TO ISLAMIC PROSTRATION
Islamic prostration, has lead many into a fatal contiplation , that they might as well go ahead and strap a suicide-bomb on their backs for the hell-allah-nation.
Always bound up in such a hasty frustration,over 13 virgins in heaven,and 2 blocks of land in Israel's Nation. A divine by-product of a loving allah creation. sKINs
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love others as u love yourself... and thank God you dont have to like them
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September 19th, 2012, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by seekinganswers
Rome does not have more authority than Aaron did, and yet you have claimed it does. Such claims to authority are blasphemous, because only God stands above all (not Rome or anyone else). The God of Israel (revealed through Israel's Messiah) is the one above reproach; not Rome or any other emissary of God on earth. Even Christ recognized this and submitted to the will of his heavenly father. If the Church fails to take on that mantle, then it has committed the very same sin as Aaron before them.
Peace,
Michael
uh... straw man since i never claimed the Church was above God...
"Whatever you do [do not do] to the least of My brethren, you do [do not do] to [for] Me" - Mt 25:31
uh... straw man since i never claimed the Church was above God...
When the RCC claims the Pope represents God on Earth, they have in fact placed the Pope above God in Heaven. And the Pope is ruler over the RCC.
Ephesians 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; Ephesians 2:9 not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. [NASB]
Last edited by Saved.One.by.Grace; September 20th, 2012 at 09:24 AM.
uh... straw man since i never claimed the Church was above God...
You claimed that the Church has the authority to speak for God (i.e. that everything the church says from it's ordained office is from God). How is that any different?
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do unto others as you would have them do unto you
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September 20th, 2012, 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by TruthSetsFree
Then why was there no pope who resigned the papacy as a result of anything Luther (et al) believed/taught?
I just have one simple question. If the RCC disputes sola scriptura by saying scripture AND tradition, why does the catholic church now practise things which at one time were neither scripture nor tradition?
I mean, it seems to me that the RCC doesn't follow it's own rules and at the same time demands that Christians do.
Last edited by tudorturtl; September 20th, 2012 at 02:00 AM.
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another boring post by someone who dosesn't have a clue what the RCC REALLY teaches...
take an RCIA class
they are going on now from Sept to Easter
and go on EVERY year at that time...
the RCC does not claim anything of the sort
I had 16 years of RCC teaching, I do not need their brainwashing anymore. Sola Scriptura is the pathway to understanding God's will.
Ephesians 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; Ephesians 2:9 not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. [NASB]
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love others as u love yourself... and thank God you dont have to like them
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September 22nd, 2012, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by tudorturtl
I just have one simple question. If the RCC disputes sola scriptura by saying scripture AND tradition, why does the catholic church now practise things which at one time were neither scripture nor tradition?
I mean, it seems to me that the RCC doesn't follow it's own rules and at the same time demands that Christians do.
i recommend RCIA classes...
i doubt u will liisten to me.. a priest has 8 yrs of education... etc..
they may have some good refreshments there anyhow...
just one night a week from Sept to Easter every yr...
and you will learn what the RCC REALLY teaches rather than all the lies u have heard
"Whatever you do [do not do] to the least of My brethren, you do [do not do] to [for] Me" - Mt 25:31
rather than the Catholic Church... most who leave the Church do so over that reason
or maybe the Church said your marriage was valid after all and you couldn't divorce and marry a Barbie doll... that happens a lot also...
You are truly an un-Christian person and have earned a permanent spot on my Ignore list.
Ephesians 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; Ephesians 2:9 not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. [NASB]