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IS THE HOLY SPIRIT ABOVE GOD - August 4th, 2012, 09:24 PM

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1. A Human can blaspheme Jesus and be Forgiven.

2. A human can blaspheme God the Father and be Forgiven.

3. A human can blaspheme the Holy Spirit and NOT be Forgiven.

Why can a Human being NOT be Forgiven ?

Is the Holy Spirit above JESUS and the Father ?









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Post August 4th, 2012, 09:31 PM

The Holy Spirit IS God.



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August 4th, 2012, 09:33 PM

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THE HOLY SPIRIT IS GODS

THE HOLY SPIRIT IS GOD'S
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The Holy Spirit is made up of the Mind of Christ and the Power of God the Father.

The Holy Spirit belongs to and is from the essence of God.

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MY SPIRIT
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Isa 44:3 For I will pour water upon him that is thirsty, and floods upon the dry ground: I will pour my spirit upon thy seed, and my blessing upon thine offspring:
Joe 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
Joe 2:29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.
Ac 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
Ac 2:18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:





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Post August 4th, 2012, 09:37 PM

Can't see your posts, OMEGA, so I'll just direct you back to Post #2.



Gaudium de veritate,

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August 4th, 2012, 09:41 PM

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JESUS you can Blaspheme and be forgiven...............

God The Father you can Blaspheme and be forgiven.......

But the Holy Spirit , you cannot.

Why not ?

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August 4th, 2012, 09:42 PM

Can't believe a Pagan Catholic who disobeys Jesus by calling other Priests

"father".

Mt 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth:

for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
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August 4th, 2012, 09:43 PM

Sky blue said,

You need to get a grip.

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A Grip on What ?

Theology is a Study of God and everything about God.

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August 4th, 2012, 09:52 PM

CRUCIFORM IS AFRAID OF THE PLAIN TRUTH OF THE BIBLE.





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August 4th, 2012, 09:54 PM

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Sky blue said,

You need to get a grip.

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A Grip on What ?

Theology is a Study of God and everything about God.

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Prove by Scripture that any Person of the Godhead blasphemed. Or is this your attempt to ascribe Socianism to the Godhead?



   
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August 4th, 2012, 10:06 PM

SKY,

YOU MISREAD THE OPENING STATEMENTS.

It is straight from the Bible.

Mt 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men:

but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
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Mr 3:28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:

Mr 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:
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Lu 12:10 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man,
it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth
against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.
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August 4th, 2012, 10:11 PM

Joh_14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

Joh_14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

Joh_15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:

Joh_16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.





Psalm 1[/color] and Job 28:28

Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

Joh 4:23 "But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers.

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August 4th, 2012, 10:11 PM

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SKY,

YOU MISREAD THE OPENING STATEMENTS.

It is straight from the Bible.

Mt 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men:

but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
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Mr 3:28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:

Mr 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:
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Lu 12:10 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man,
it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth
against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.
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No, I read your OP. If you're trying to teach about the blashemy of the Holy Spirit then it is only prescribed to man and it was for a generation but I suppose you missed that.



   
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August 4th, 2012, 10:31 PM

SKY, this is basic proper english grammar.

I am addressing humans and saying to them that you humans

can blaspheme the Subject of the sentence which is Jesus .

But for those who are NOT Classically Trained , I will simplify it.

1. A Human can blaspheme Jesus and be Forgiven.

2. A human can blaspheme God the Father and be Forgiven.

3. A human can blaspheme the Holy Spirit and NOT be Forgiven.

Why can a Human being NOT be Forgiven ?

Is the Holy Spirit above JESUS and the Father ?

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JESUS, you can Blaspheme and be forgiven...............

God The Father , you can Blaspheme and be forgiven.......

But the Holy Spirit , you cannot.

Why not ?
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August 4th, 2012, 10:38 PM

"But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils. And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand: And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand? And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your children cast them out? therefore they shall be your judges. But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you" (Matthew 12:24-28).

The Pharisees were saying that Jesus' power to heal was coming from Satan. By that they were actually blasheming the Holy Spirit of God which was the actual divine power working through Jesus. Therefore, calling the Holy Spirit evil and of Satan is unforgiveable.



   
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August 5th, 2012, 12:46 PM

Nothing is above God. God is the Holy Spirit of Love. He came unto His own and His own knew Him not, He lived a sinless life and died as if He had sinned. The GIFT of the Holy Spirit is the promise of eternal life with the acceptance of the knowledge that He walked among us with the gift of Love to those who accept the truth, obey His commandments and seek Him in truth and in spirit.
He came to tell us that He exists within us. He came as the Head of the body (us) to let us know that He alone rules the rest of us and that we are not Gods, but of God with Him residing within.
God is the head, brain and life of His body of believers and His name is Jesus Christ.
The head/flesh-Jesus--the intelligence/brain within--Father--Life/light/Love within--Holy Spirit
Just as we cannot separate these things from ourselves--neither can He.
It is in this way that mankind was created in the image of God. We are as intelligent working cells of the body of God--he is all life (Colossian 1:15)
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