[alwight]

Originally Posted by Wile E. Coyote

And we must be doing something right if we are bugging you and you want us banned. You defend pedophiles by defending homosexuals because most homosexuals are pedophiles or are in the closet pedophiles.

I actually don't care a jot if homophobic bigots get banned or not Wile, my intention is to highlight how TOL management condones such hate and bigotry. Some newer people here might like to know just how it is, so thanks for helping me in my quest btw.

Originally Posted by Wile E. Coyote

Or is it your Christophobic bigotry that motivates you? Turn the light on.

I've never met Christ nor am I ever likely to without a time machine, he might have been a cool dude for all I know.

[Angel4Truth]

Originally Posted by NewDay

The first bold:

This is exactly my point. You made my point for me, thank you. This is a biassed board, who judges by it's biassed rules...and, you think I am dumb enough to give money in support of it? If you think that is fair, that is your mindset, not mine. I could be judged in that fashion, just by how one feels on a bad day. TOL should really change it's name. It is not really a theology discussion board with freedom of speach. In the same way, the church I attend, demands you allow their 'judgement' of you stand, instead of keeping your eyes fixed on Jesus, who is the ONLY righteouss Judge.

As for the rest of your post:



Are you saying that dispies don't come on this board daily, and do the same? If you are, you better go read the christian forum...that everyone else on this board can read.

However, I will let you have the last word, because you are now on ignore. Enjoy having the last word.....

Originally Posted by NewDay

Angel:



So, according to this board's rules, it is fine to come on a christian board, so called, and call 'other' born again, spirit led christian's wolf, idiot, bigot, wicked liar, demon god, etc, etc etc...all in the name of 'the jesus of Tol?'


Gotcha.

You people do not have a clue what chrisitanity is.

I will tell you what I tell 'em down at the corner church, keep acting like that, and soon you won't have enough money to pay the rent on this place.

God is love, love is not hatred, get a clue.

?????? i thought you were done with me?

Guess not, liar.

[Lighthouse]

Originally Posted by NewDay

Rule #3 of TOL:

Thou SHALL NOT be intentionally blasphemous or unnecessarily disruptive. We will ban you if you are presenting yourself as an unneeded distraction (yes this is subjective - live with it).


You broke the rule I underlined.

You started the mess in the chat. Everyone knows it but you, and your few cohorts.

So? Do I care? NO.

All I care about is that we have a right to speak our opinion, without rude judgements following.


I have received infractions for doing LESS.

Are you seriously this stupid?

The chatbox is not a thread, for one. And for another I didn't intend to cause any disruption. I had no idea meshak was that stupid and whiny, nor that she would do what she did. Just as I had no idea you were this stupid, but I did know you were whiny, or that you would go on an on and on in such a manner over something that you clearly have no say in and in which you have made no difference. Why keep saying I should be banned when it's obvious I'm not going to get banned for it. For once, do something intelligent and get it through your thick skull to your tiny little brain that all your whining over this isn't going to change anything and shut up and go away. In this whole debacle meshak, and you, have been the disruptive ones. And you have done it by responding to each post directed toward you with individual posts, rather than using the multi quote function in order to save space and bandwidth. But I might excuse that, as you're probably too ignorant to know how to multi quote.

[NewDay]

Lighthouse;3125426]Are you seriously this stupid?

The chatbox is not a thread, for one

.

So, the rules of the board do not apply in the chat box?

And for another I didn't intend to cause any disruption.

The only one who believes that is you...and, those like yourself that justifies your own wrong doing.

It is wrong to claim a quote belongs to another member of this board....when you wrote it yourself.

Common sense, brother.

I had no idea meshak was that stupid and whiny, nor that she would do what she did.

You are kidding, right?

Just as I had no idea you were this stupid, but I did know you were whiny, or that you would go on an on and on in such a manner over something that you clearly have no say in and in which you have made no difference.

I will tell you what I told the Elders of the church on the corner last night when they came into my home to judge my motives as to why I sent a letter to the MEMBERS of that church, overruling their authority. I have ONE Authority; Jesus Christ, and He comes first in all things, over rules of men, etc...


They did not like my answer either.

Why keep saying I should be banned when it's obvious I'm not going to get banned for it.

First of all, I only said you should be banned for breaking the same rules of THIS board. Myself, I am not 'for rules' for christians. Love is my way.

It is not right to set up rules and only apply them to SOME members.

That was my statement from the beginning. I am not the only one who sees how this is being unfairly done...and, likewise, I really don't care that you want to judge my motives. I simply want the SAME right to come on this board and speak an opinion, as YOU.

Is that so much to ask?

For once, do something intelligent and get it through your thick skull to your tiny little brain that all your whining over this isn't going to change anything and shut up and go away.

Yeah; that is the same answer I got lastnight....from the Elders down the corner. They don't want truth messing up their Authority that they have brainwashed the people in their little clique, either. They openly admitted that they were the authority, and if I didnt like it, I could just move on. Well guess what? I am moving on, but that moving on, does NOT mean I wont communicate with the MEMBERS of that church that are like minded as myself,...AND, I would like to have that same right on this board. Is that ok with you,. or are you too, going to state publicly as Angel did that people have to conform to the Authority of men, over Christ Himself on this board?

I never agreed to THAT rule when I came to this board. Where is it written in the rules, of this board that I have to submit to the Authority of a man/Knight, to have a right to post on this board? You see, it is not in the rules...it is spoken to you AFTER you get involved in here. So, I did NOT break any rules when I agreed to the rules of this board.

You think people must be stupid, LH....we are NOT.

In this whole debacle meshak, and you, have been the disruptive ones. And you have done it by responding to each post directed toward you with individual posts, rather than using the multi quote function in order to save space and bandwidth. But I might excuse that, as you're probably too ignorant to know how to multi quote.

I also use the quote people's words. There has NOT been one time that I misquoted anyone. You on the other hand...LOL

YOU have quoted Mehsak, with YOUR OWN MADE UP WORDS.

I do not care that you think it is fine and dandy to do so. I think it was and IS a shame.

Doing something malicious like that, and pretending and having others justify your wrong doing, is wrong.

I will speak the truth, and you and this board can take it or leave it.

I really don't care.

We live in dark times...men have allowed MEN to have authority over them..even to the point where they disobey JESUS in order to do so.

Do you think that is OK with God?

Not hardly.

Until you can provide the 'rule' that states...

"people on this board must place themselves under the Authority of the owner, in such a way whereas they have to go against their own conscience, where truth is concerned", do not claim I have broken a rule of this board.

There is no such rule, but, like I said, once you get in here, it is enforced on you, just like the church on the corner...there is nothing new under the sun.

I won't be under the Authority of NO Man, accept Jesus Christ, and He does NOT have rules, but teaches me by love.

[Tambora]

Originally Posted by Lighthouse

I had no idea meshak was that stupid and whiny

I did.

Just as I had no idea you were this stupid

I did.

[Angel4Truth]

Originally Posted by NewDay

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First of all, I only said you should be banned for breaking the same rules of THIS board.

No he shouldnt be - meshak wasnt 'banned' for what she did, she received infraction points. Its not lighthouses problem that meshak had racked up several other infractions in the past that caused these points to land her a ban.

So no, lighthouse shouldnt have been banned for anything.

It is not right to set up rules and only apply them to SOME members.

the same rules were aplied to both, lighthouse didnt get infracted because he didnt argue with staff.

You must think meshak should have been banned for longer than she was since her slander act broke 2 other rules too, and she was only infracted for what she did to staff - so the measurement is what happened with staff since that is what was applied.

Lighthouse did nothing to staff. They were treated the same. meshak was also shown much grace, was told to stop over and over before she was infracted for arguing with staff.

That was my statement from the beginning. I am not the only one who sees how this is being unfairly done...and, likewise, I really don't care that you want to judge my motives. I simply want the SAME right to come on this board and speak an opinion, as YOU.

Is that so much to ask?

Yes - freedom of speech doesn't apply to a private message board, and if you do not like the way it is here, you don't have to spend time here. Its that simple.

Ive left 2 other message boards where i had invested much time and energy because i didn't like the changes they made there and how they ran the place. No one forces you here.

Yeah; that is the same answer I got lastnight....from the Elders down the corner. They don't want truth messing up their Authority that they have brainwashed the people in their little clique, either. They openly admitted that they were the authority, and if I didnt like it, I could just move on. Well guess what? I am moving on, but that moving on, does NOT mean I wont communicate with the MEMBERS of that church that are like minded as myself,...AND, I would like to have that same right on this board. Is that ok with you,. or are you too, going to state publicly as Angel did that people have to conform to the Authority of men, over Christ Himself on this board?

This is a private board, you have to abide by the guidelines as the owner sees fit. You agreed to follow the rules here when you signed up.

I never agreed to THAT rule when I came to this board. Where is it written in the rules, of this board that I have to submit to the Authority of a man/Knight, to have a right to post on this board? You see, it is not in the rules...it is spoken to you AFTER you get involved in here. So, I did NOT break any rules when I agreed to the rules of this board.

You think people must be stupid, LH....we are NOT.

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The forum rules also had a link you could read, then you see that red part, there was a box next to it you checked saying YOU AGREED.

You would have also gotten the statement about it being knights house party and that yes i is biased and the rules are subjective.

And you AGREED.

I will speak the truth, and you and this board can take it or leave it.

I really don't care.

I see you lied in order to join then.

Until you can provide the 'rule' that states...

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It doesnt have to say that, it does have to say this though

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There is no such rule, but, like I said, once you get in here, it is enforced on you, just like the church on the corner...there is nothing new under the sun.

Yes you agreed to the rules here - you had to - to sign up , you also agreed it was Knights house party not yours.

I won't be under the Authority of NO Man, accept Jesus Christ, and He does NOT have rules, but teaches me by love.

Then sign out now and delete your membership because you DID agree to the rules and that Staff are in charge here and you post at THEIR pleasure.

If you dont like it, too bad. Its not anyones problem here that you didnt read what you signed.

[Angel4Truth]

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[Lighthouse]

Originally Posted by Tambora

I did.

I did.

Originally Posted by Angel4Truth

No he shouldnt be - meshak wasnt 'banned' for what she did, she received infraction points. Its not lighthouses problem that meshak had racked up several other infractions in the past that caused these points to land her a ban.

So no, lighthouse shouldnt have been banned for anything.

the same rules were aplied to both, lighthouse didnt get infracted because he didnt argue with staff.

You must think meshak should have been banned for longer than she was since her slander act broke 2 other rules too, and she was only infracted for what she did to staff - so the measurement is what happened with staff since that is what was applied.

Lighthouse did nothing to staff. They were treated the same. meshak was also shown much grace, was told to stop over and over before she was infracted for arguing with staff.

Thank you.

Originally Posted by NewDay

So, the rules of the board do not apply in the chat box?

Not completely, no: as the chatbox doesn't work the same way as the threads do, i.e. the chatbox isn't threaded.

And, again, I didn't break any of the rules anyway.

The only one who believes that is you...and, those like yourself that justifies your own wrong doing.

You're an idiot.

It is wrong to claim a quote belongs to another member of this board....when you wrote it yourself.

I never claimed it actually belonged to meshak. Anyone with a working brain could see that I was simply mocking the little twerp.

Common sense, brother.

We all wish you had some.

You are kidding, right?

Why would I be kidding? I had the little snot on ignore so I didn't have to read her ignorant posts, so I hadn't seen the extent of her empty headed buffoonery.

I will tell you what I told the Elders of the church on the corner last night when they came into my home to judge my motives as to why I sent a letter to the MEMBERS of that church, overruling their authority. I have ONE Authority; Jesus Christ, and He comes first in all things, over rules of men, etc...

They did not like my answer either.

First of all, I only said you should be banned for breaking the same rules of THIS board. Myself, I am not 'for rules' for christians. Love is my way.

Except I didn't break the rule for which meshak received an infraction.

Nor was meshak directly banned, half wit. She was banned as a byproduct of having received numerous infractions worth several points and the fact that they accumulated to enough to cause an automatic ban wherein no one had to click on the actual ban button. So, even if I had received an infraction for what I did I would still not have been banned because I haven't received an infraction in over two years and eight months, and all the points I had expired almost as long ago.

It is not right to set up rules and only apply them to SOME members.

That was my statement from the beginning. I am not the only one who sees how this is being unfairly done...and, likewise, I really don't care that you want to judge my motives. I simply want the SAME right to come on this board and speak an opinion, as YOU.

Is that so much to ask?

As much whining as you do about it you are being unnecessarily disruptive, which is against the rules of this forum, so if you want the rules to be applied to all in the same manner you should ask them to give you an infraction.

Yeah; that is the same answer I got lastnight....from the Elders down the corner. They don't want truth messing up their Authority that they have brainwashed the people in their little clique, either. They openly admitted that they were the authority, and if I didnt like it, I could just move on. Well guess what? I am moving on, but that moving on, does NOT mean I wont communicate with the MEMBERS of that church that are like minded as myself,...AND, I would like to have that same right on this board. Is that ok with you,. or are you too, going to state publicly as Angel did that people have to conform to the Authority of men, over Christ Himself on this board?

If the men who have authority on this Earth, even on this board, are not overstepping, or ignoring, the authority of Christ then you should submit to them, as Paul wrote in Romans 13.

I never agreed to THAT rule when I came to this board. Where is it written in the rules, of this board that I have to submit to the Authority of a man/Knight, to have a right to post on this board? You see, it is not in the rules...it is spoken to you AFTER you get involved in here. So, I did NOT break any rules when I agreed to the rules of this board.

It is implicit in the rules and TOS of any online site that you submit to the authority of the site owner and the staff. Just because you didn't know Knight was the webmaster of TOL when you agreed to the rules, you still agreed to abide by his rules, as he is the one who typed up the rules to which you agreed, moron.

Do you think that when people join Facebook they aren't agreeing to abide by Mark Zuckerberg's rules if they don't know he owns Facebook?

You think people must be stupid, LH....we are NOT.

No; I know you are.

I also use the quote people's words. There has NOT been one time that I misquoted anyone. You on the other hand...LOL

And every single time I have done it I owned up to it and made it clear that I was doing so. I never left it alone to cause others to believe I hadn't edited the quote.

YOU have quoted Mehsak, with YOUR OWN MADE UP WORDS.

Then that's not a quote, pinhead. And to anyone with common sense it was obvious meshak hadn't actually posted that.

I do not care that you think it is fine and dandy to do so. I think it was and IS a shame.

And I don't care what you think.

Doing something malicious like that, and pretending and having others justify your wrong doing, is wrong.

Malicious? And what, pray tell, was I pretending?

I will speak the truth, and you and this board can take it or leave it.

Did you drop your binky?

I really don't care.

Obviously; that's why you won't shut up about it.

We live in dark times...men have allowed MEN to have authority over them..even to the point where they disobey JESUS in order to do so.

Are you accusing me of such? If so you better come correct and put forth some proof, or step off before you find out what reaping the whirlwind really means; because inflammatory is for newbies, I can be incendiary.

Do you think that is OK with God?

To be disobedient? Of course not. He did say obedience is better than sacrifice, did He not?

Until you can provide the 'rule' that states...

"people on this board must place themselves under the Authority of the owner, in such a way whereas they have to go against their own conscience, where truth is concerned", do not claim I have broken a rule of this board.

If you break a rule you've broken a rule even if you haven't broken one that doesn't exist, oh tiny brained one.

There is no such rule, but, like I said, once you get in here, it is enforced on you, just like the church on the corner...there is nothing new under the sun.

Really? They enforce rules like that? If that's the case then why didn't I get banned when I joined? And why are you still here?

You're lucky there isn't a rule that states, "Don't be a moron."

I won't be under the Authority of NO Man, accept Jesus Christ, and He does NOT have rules, but teaches me by love.

Nor will you be under the rules of thumb regarding grammar, sheesh!

A double negative, really? And "accept" instead of "except"? That is what is a shame.

[Wile E. Coyote]

Originally Posted by alwight

I actually don't care a jot if homophobic bigots get banned or not Wile, my intention is to highlight how TOL management condones such hate and bigotry. Some newer people here might like to know just how it is, so thanks for helping me in my quest btw.

You are the one who hates and you are the bigot. You label us "homophobes" in response to the evidence we give about the homosexual "community" being predominantly pedophiles. We care about children over class. You care about class over children and call us names.

I've never met Christ nor am I ever likely to without a time machine, he might have been a cool dude for all I know.

And I have a homosexual nephew that I love. I have no anomosity toward homosexuals as individuals.

The homosexuals have manipulated our legal system. Show in the U.S. Constitution where a class of people is protected. The Constitution is about individual rights and not about the rights of a class. Yet the deputy DA of Nevada would not prosecute a homosexual pedophile for his crime because it would "discriminate" against a class. We speak out about this and you anti Jesus people call us "homophobes."

You take the easy way. Instead of facing the facts you just say, "They're homophobes." You are complicit in the sexual molestation of our children and you ought to be whipped too.

[NewDay]

Religion= conform

Christianity= transform

I choose the latter.....it is Canaday here everyone, Have a great day, going to the cottage!

[Inzl Kett]

Newday, if you don't like the way this board is run, there are other boards out there on the web for you and meshak to join.

All your protesting of how things are done here isn't going to change a thing.

[alwight]

Originally Posted by Wile E. Coyote

You take the easy way. Instead of facing the facts you just say, "They're homophobes." You are complicit in the sexual molestation of our children and you ought to be whipped too.

What is easy and homophobic imo is to dishonestly claim that gays are predominantly paedophiles as you do.
What is not so easy but more honest perhaps would be to show that's it is true or to simply accept that it isn't.