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May 20th, 2012, 12:35 PM

don't you just love how open-minded and polite these Anti-theists are these days?





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May 20th, 2012, 04:01 PM

Setting aside the man in Texas there is an interesting question here. Time. How long did it take Moses to "convert" and do God's will? Peter? Paul? Is time even a consideration? Is it Biblical? Does God give out various degrees for time in grade? Or is it instantaneous when He reveals himself and directs a person?



   
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Setting aside the man in Texas there is an interesting question here. Time. How long did it take Moses to "convert" and do God's will? Peter? Paul? Is time even a consideration? Is it Biblical? Does God give out various degrees for time in grade? Or is it instantaneous when He reveals himself and directs a person?

I believe the Biblical interpretation is that it can be instantaneous (ie, hear, believe, obey, etc), but in a practical sense it takes years to go from atheist to Christian, and probably still more years yet to become a preacher.



   
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May 21st, 2012, 10:56 AM

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Setting aside the man in Texas there is an interesting question here. Time. How long did it take Moses to "convert" and do God's will? Peter? Paul? Is time even a consideration? Is it Biblical? Does God give out various degrees for time in grade? Or is it instantaneous when He reveals himself and directs a person?
Yeah, the amount of time does not seem to be a set factor.

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He's trying to reconcile Christianity with his actually legitimate moral views.





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I believe the Biblical interpretation is that it can be instantaneous (ie, hear, believe, obey, etc), but in a practical sense it takes years to go from atheist to Christian, and probably still more years yet to become a preacher.
I know my conversion left me standing in faith, but I suppose it could take time to rid yourself of bad habits. I know the quality of my reliance has improved appreciably over the years. It took a while for me to stop relying on me and treating God like someone who had done me a tremendous favor and shouldn't be "bothered" unless it was "important".

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It's just good to see you and legitimate that near one another. Anyone have an egg timer on them?



   
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June 13th, 2012, 01:41 PM

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This should be filed under.... if you can't beat them, join them, and destroy them from the inside out.

Remember that atheist activist dude named Patrick Greene? He was the guy that was suing the town of Athens Texas because of their Nativity display.

Then it turns out Mr. Green is ill (he's going blind), which in turn makes it so that he and his wife can't pay their bills. So, some local Christians help him out financially. Apparently this gesture warms his heart.

And in the span of just a month or so this guy claims he has become a Christian.
“There’s been one lingering thought in the back of my head my entire life, and it‘s one thought that I’ve never been able to reconcile, and that is the vast difference between all the animals and us,” Greene told The Christian Post on Tuesday, as he began to explain his recent transformation from atheist to Christian. The theory of evolution didn’t answer his questions, he says, so he just set those questions aside and didn’t think about them anymore.
Sounds like a great story eh???

That is until you read the rest of the story....
[indent]Perhaps more surprising than Greene’s conversion — which was unexpected considering his past activism — is his plan to consider entering ministry. The Post reports that he may become a part of a liberal congregation and that he may even start his own chapter of the Rainbow Baptists, a ministry to the LGBTQ community. Greene says that he believes the Bible’s original approach to homosexuality has been altered and that he feels strongly about rectifying it.
Proud homosexuals entering the clergy and attempting to redefine Christianity?

Boy, before you know it they'll want to openly join the military, adopt children, teach in schools, "marry" and be openly accepted in youth mentor groups.





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July 29th, 2012, 04:26 PM

A thread like this raises some questions in my mind:

(1) How was Paul treated by the early believing community? How am I supposed to act in situations like this?

(2) How does my own salvation history look from the outside? Where do I need to improve my walk?

(3) What are the legitimate requirements for credibility for any 'new believer'?

(4) What are the options for dealing with real wolves in sheep's clothing?

(5) How does what we do in these situations conform to, or hinder the Gospel?

I guess I feel that these questions, as important as they seem to me,
haven't yet been recognized and addressed on a solid foundation.

Who can help?





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August 31st, 2012, 05:47 PM

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This should be filed under.... if you can't beat them, join them, and destroy them from the inside out.

Remember that atheist activist dude named Patrick Greene? He was the guy that was suing the town of Athens Texas because of their Nativity display.

Then it turns out Mr. Green is ill (he's going blind), which in turn makes it so that he and his wife can't pay their bills. So, some local Christians help him out financially. Apparently this gesture warms his heart.

And in the span of just a month or so this guy claims he has become a Christian.
According to the Huffpost article he wants to become a pastor.



   
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