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August 1st, 2012, 08:42 PM

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You can't get blood out of stone. Shortly after that incident he moved to Tampa to live with mommy and daddy. If I wanted to sue him I would have to go through so much non-sense trying to get him served in Tampa. He was already being sued by another customer near Ft Myers for more money. And me being his employee made a civil case much more difficult. At any rate, the statute of limitations is only 2 years for civil suits. So I can't do anything now.
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August 1st, 2012, 08:49 PM

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You don't have to be sorry. You had nothing to do with it. I do appreciate your concern, however. I think I made my point for SIM though. There are crazy desperate people from all walks of life and one can never be too careful. The roofing contractor's biological father is a Sheriff in N. Carolina, and his family is not poor. Also I would have never expected a ROTC college student to do such a thing either.





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August 5th, 2012, 02:51 PM

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So inventing an idiotic premise for tackling it, tackling it, and then acting like an angry schoolgirl about it there after counts as 'proving someone wrong'?

Negged repped for being patient and rational, and then neg repped for not being so nice. And now, everyone's right except *me*. Oh, how possible you make it be to even have a conversation with you all.


You all miss the point. Self-defense is the personal business of the person. However, promoting it and trying to turn the world into the Wild West? Telling people they are wrong for not carrying a pistol or that the blame should be on them?
No critical thought or other notions, just *grab a gun*. You wouldn't have to worry so much a bout a gun if you aimed not to offend every person you see, for starts. There's a good amount of people in the world who would want you dead simply because you are a conceded, vain, walking manifestation of worthlessness who awkward eye's the poor and concedes to the rich.
*Not that right wingers can even fathom such detail*

I've already spoken quite explicitly of the outrage of what a lot of you posit, so I don't even know why I'm wasting my time, really. Why don't you practice your religion, Lighthouse, and stop being a phony.
Better yet, why don't you just grow up buddy, and stop neg repping me for stupid reasons across every thread on here.

Oh and one more thing:
"My name is One Saved by Grace. Yes, I am such a Christian that this is my username."
Has a pistol as their avatar.
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That's just the truth. Only here *this site* could you not be made out to be a moron. Up on here calling people liars and being a baby and whatnot because some Christians actually try to move away from violence, weapons, and death. And see that these people agree with you. If you knew them like I did, perhaps you would know that it isn't exactly something to be proud of.
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August 5th, 2012, 04:14 PM

Nick,

Gun control on a city, district or even state level juts isn't going to work.

In that case you right guns will juts cross state and municipal borders when criminals wants to commit crimes, gun control needs to be federally mandidated for it to work efficiently.

Many of the things I argue against will be true if gun control is enforced peace meal.

My in-laws live in Wisconsin, there grocery store is in Illinous, if you have different gun control for the two different states of course its not going to work, the borders are porous and guns will flood over them.

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But Chicago’s murder rate is not proof that gun control doesn’t work. It’s proof that, in a country with one gun per citizen, local gun laws are meaningless.
Source: http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward...#ixzz22iK4RXvw

However i'm not sure if your stats also comparing like with like, ill have to look at your stats more thoroughly.

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That is ok. Those that smack with the truth have them. As we told Thundersmuse, gun control leads to more violence. Criminals now have a disarmed society to which they can plunder.

Take Chicago and their strict gun control laws. You can subsitute any city really. New York, DC, LA, it doesn't matter.

http://www.encyclopedia.chicagohisto...pages/557.html

Since the early 1970s, Chicago and its suburban municipalities have taken a national lead in enacting firearms control legislation. Citizens' groups such as the Committee for Handgun Control, formed in 1973 and renamed Illinois Citizens for Handgun Control in 1982, have worked together with city politicians and police to pass some of the nation's toughest gun control laws.

In 1981 the suburb of Morton Grove became the first municipality in the United States to ban the sale, transportation, and ownership of handguns.

Soon other suburbs began passing gun control legislation. In the fall of 1982, Evanston banned handguns. In 1984, Oak Park became the third municipality to ban handguns.

In 1992, led by Mayor Richard M. Daley, the Chicago City Council voted to ban assault weapons.


Using liberal logic, Chicago became a safer city. Right?

http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward...163874546.html

Chicago likes to compare itself to other world cities, so Ward Room thought it would find out how we rank in violence. It turns out no one can top us. Among what are considered Alpha world cities, Chicago has the highest murder rate -- higher even than the Third World metropolises of Mexico City and Sao Paolo. Here’s how we rank in murders per 100,000 among cities we consider our peers, based on a projected murder total of 505 for this year.

Singapore 0.4
Tokyo 0.5
Chicago 19.4


Singapore and Tokyo were at the top of a longer list I am not posting. They have something in common. They execute murderers.



   
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August 5th, 2012, 04:16 PM

I think need to read more on the martyrs of our faith, over the years.

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What color are the unicorns in your perfect little rainbow world?

Maybe I'll come out and visit you some time when I need a break from reality.

If an evil person came into your home determined to rape and murder your family, do you believe that God would expect you to sing Kumbaya and ask the intruder to kindly reconsider? Maybe you could give him a hug and tell him he's just having a bad day? Serve him a plate of cookies?

Your comments speak for themselves, really. You understand neither the vast majority of gun owners nor cowboys.



   
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August 5th, 2012, 05:05 PM

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I think need to read more on the martyrs of our faith, over the years.
We should not be making legislation under any assumption that anyone needs to be a martyr. That is a personal choice, it should have nothing to do with gun restriction/prohibition legislation. People can still decide to be martyrs. But I would not subject any one in my family or my friends to such a decision, should I make it for myself.





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We should not be making legislation under any assumption that anyone needs to be a martyr. That is a personal choice, it should have nothing to do with gun restriction/prohibition legislation. People can still decide to be martyrs. But I would not subject any one in my family or my friends to such a decision, should I make it for myself.
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