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Sounds good. How does this verse support the trinity?
Numbers 22:28
Then the Lord opened the donkey’s mouth, and it said to Balaam, “What have I done to you to make you beat me these three times?”
No verse stands alone. Read the preceding verses. The YHWH who opened the donkey's mouth is Malak YHWH.
"The Bible is very clear, Christians aren't supposed to be busybodies, nor are they supposed to strive with any man who hasn't harmed him (Or someone else, by implication.)" RandPaulfor2016, May 10, 2013
Malek Yahweh is present the entire time Num 22.22 - 35.
Malek Yahweh is worshipped by Balaam, Num 22.31.
Mr. Chair is not interested in truth. Therefore, context is meaningless to him. What a shame!
"The Bible is very clear, Christians aren't supposed to be busybodies, nor are they supposed to strive with any man who hasn't harmed him (Or someone else, by implication.)" RandPaulfor2016, May 10, 2013
Slogan/motto:
"Hear Israel, Y-H-W-H is our God, Y-H-W-H is ONE!" Deut 6:4
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May 1st, 2013, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Wile E. Coyote
No verse stands alone. Read the preceding verses. The YHWH who opened the donkey's mouth is Malak YHWH.
Bs'd
Many times when God does something through an angel, it is directly attributed to God:
It is a given in Jewish law that an emissary is equal to the one who sends him. When a Jewish man marries a woman through an agent, the legal effect is the same as when he marries her personally. A good Biblical example of this is to be found in Genesis 19 where is spoken about the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. God sent two angels to destroy the cities, the angels said to Lot in verse 13: "For we are about to destroy this place, because the outcry against its people has become great before the LORD, and Y-H-W-H has sent us to destroy it." Upon this Lot says to his sons in law: "Up, get out of this place; for Y-H-W-H is about to destroy the city." Lot didn't say: "The angels are going to destroy the city" He said: " Y-H-W-H is going to destroy the city". And in verse 29 it is written: "So it was that, when God destroyed the cities of the valley...." So the angels were send by God to destroy the cities, but God is considered to be the one who did it, because He was the one who sent them.
So it is not like the two angels are here identified as God, just like in the places where polytheistic idol worshiping Christians want to say that God is His own angel, just like according to them God is His own son, and at the same time His own father, and also His own servant, (Isaiah 53) and now also His own angel.
It's just that those Christians are hopelessly confused.
Eliyahu, light unto the nations
"Hear Israel, Y-H-W-H is our God, Y-H-W-H is ONE!" Deut 6:4
"All the peoples walk each in the name of his god, but as for us; we will walk in the name of Y-H-W-H our God forever and ever!" Micah 4:5
JC was not God, not the son of God, not divine, and not the messiah.
Only Y-H-W-H is God.
Slogan/motto:
"Hear Israel, Y-H-W-H is our God, Y-H-W-H is ONE!" Deut 6:4
Reputation:
May 1st, 2013, 10:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wile E. Coyote
Mr. Chair is not interested in truth. Therefore, context is meaningless to him. What a shame!
Bs'd
I'll give you a hand: Here is the truth:
שמע ישראל י-ה-ו-ה אלהנו י-ה-ו-ה אחד
Hear Israel, Y-H-W-H is our God, Y-H-W-H isONE.
And you shall love Y-H-W-H your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might.
And these words which I command you this day shall be upon your heart;
and you shall teach them diligently to your children, and shall talk of them when you sit in your house, and when you walk by the way, and when you lie down, and when you rise.
And you shall bind them as a sign upon your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes.
And you shall write them on the doorposts of your house and on your gates.
Deut 6:4-9
Y-H-W-H, the one and only God who is one.
Beside Him there is no God, no Buddha, no JC, no David Koresh; NOBODY.
Whoever worships anything or anybody else than Y-H-W-H is an IDOL WORSHIPER.
Deuteronomy 4:35 “You were shown these things so that you might know that Y-H-W-H is God; besides him there is no other.”
Deuteronomy 4:39 “Acknowledge and take to heart this day that Y-H-W-H is God in heaven above and on the earth below. There is no other.”
II Samuel 7:22 “How great you are, O Sovereign Y-H-W-H! There is no one like you, and there is no God but you, as we have heard with our own ears.”
I Kings 8:60 “so that all the peoples of the earth may know that Y-H-W-H is God and that there is no other.”
I Chronicles 17:20 “There is no one like you, O Y-H-W-H, and there is no God but you, as we have heard with our own ears.”
II Chronicles 6:14 “O Y-H-W-H, God of Israel, there is no God like you in heaven or on earth.”
Nehemiah 9:6 “You alone are Y-H-W-H.”
Isaiah 45:21-23 “You are my witnesses," declares Y-H-W-H, "and my servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe me and understand that I am he. Before me no god was formed, nor will there be one after me."
Isaiah 44:6 “This is what Y-H-W-H says- Israel's King and Redeemer, Y-H-W-H Almighty: I am the first and I am the last; apart from me there is no God.”
Isaiah 45:5-6 “I am Y-H-W-H , and there is no other; apart from me there is no God. I will strengthen you, though you have not acknowledged me, so that from the rising of the sun to the place of its setting men may know there is none besides me."
Isaiah 45:21-23 “Declare what is to be, present it- let them take counsel together. Who foretold this long ago, who declared it from the distant past? Was it not I, Y-H-W-H? And there is no God apart from me, a righteous God and a Savior; there is none but me. Turn to me and be saved, all you ends of the earth; for I am God, and there is no other.”
Joel 2:27 “Then you will know that I am in Israel, that I am Y-H-W-H your God, and that there is no other;”
Exodus 20:1-3 “And God spoke all these words: "I am Y-H-W-H your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. YOU SHALL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE ME.”
Eliyahu, light unto the nations
"Hear Israel, Y-H-W-H is our God, Y-H-W-H is ONE!" Deut 6:4
"All the peoples walk each in the name of his god, but as for us; we will walk in the name of Y-H-W-H our God forever and ever!" Micah 4:5
JC was not God, not the son of God, not divine, and not the messiah.
Only Y-H-W-H is God.
The Lord opened Balaam's eyes so that he fell down and worshiped Malak YHWH.
Maybe He will open Elia's eyes too.
"The Bible is very clear, Christians aren't supposed to be busybodies, nor are they supposed to strive with any man who hasn't harmed him (Or someone else, by implication.)" RandPaulfor2016, May 10, 2013
The Lord opened Balaam's eyes so that he fell down and worshiped Malak YHWH.
Maybe He will open Elia's eyes too.
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Originally Posted by Apple7
Stranger things have happened...
Elia seems to be moving further and further into the darkness. On Genesis 1:26 he said that angels created. You said that he retracted that and is now saying that God was trying to teach us good manners.
"The Bible is very clear, Christians aren't supposed to be busybodies, nor are they supposed to strive with any man who hasn't harmed him (Or someone else, by implication.)" RandPaulfor2016, May 10, 2013
Elia seems to be moving further and further into the darkness. On Genesis 1:26 he said that angels created. You said that he retracted that and is now saying that God was trying to teach us good manners.
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