[Princely]

"By your words you'll be forgiven or by your words you'll be condemned."

Anyone who hears my words and does not keep them, I am not the one who condemns him for I did not come to condemn the world but to save it. Anyone who rejects me and does not accept my words he already has his judge, namely, the words I've spoken, that's what will condemn him on the last day.

The man who wants to come to me will hear my words and put them into practice, that man is like a wise man who built his house on rock.

"Judge not, and you shall not be judged. Condemn not, and you shall not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.

[OMEGA]

C H A I R ,

ARE YOU BLIND ?

JESUS came to show people that they have to FIGHT

against the Pulls of the SATANIC Nature that was given to them

in the Garden of Eden.

Only by doing this will they be able to be a Member of God's Government.

That is why Jesus said to STRIVE.


Lu 13:24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many,

I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.

THIS CHRISTIAN LIFE IS NOT FOR THE FEINT HEARTED !!

But the Rewards are Great.

[RevTestament]

Originally Posted by chair

A related question, for Christians:
Could you be forgiven without Jesus dying "to pay the penalty" for your sins?

So the answer is: "If you don't accept the sacrifice of Jesus, you will never be forgiven"?

These are 2 different questions Chair. The answer to the first is no. Jesus paid the necessary consequence for all to be forgiven.

The answer to the second is also no. There are many who have died never even having heard of Christ. Many will ultimately not accept Christ - this does not condemn them to hell because of the atonement. Nevertheless they will be judged according to their works, and their capacities. Jesus gave us power to become the sons and daughters of God - part of the family of God. These are the things Jesus taught.

[OMEGA]

A related question, for Christians:

Could you be forgiven without Jesus dying "to pay the penalty" for your sins?
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Chair does NOT want to Accept the Plain Truth

that JESUS is the Messiah which is proven by the TORAH.

[Princely]

Originally Posted by OMEGA

A related question, for Christians:

Could you be forgiven without Jesus dying "to pay the penalty" for your sins?
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Chair does NOT want to Accept the Plain Truth

that JESUS is the Messiah which is proven by the TORAH.

Jesus didn't die for anyone's sins. That is a misunderstanding by sinners who need to get into the light and walk in the paths of the Lord. The son of man has told man what the Father has said He requires to be saved and enter the kingdom of God. "Sinners will not be allowed in the assembly of the righteous".

It is written;


"The word of the Lord is upright, and all his works are truthful. He loves justice and right;

The Lord is good; blessed are those who take refuge in him. Revere the Lord, you his holy ones, for nothing is lacking to those who revere Him. The great grow poor and hungry but those who seek the Lord want for no good thing.

The Lord has eyes for the just, and ears for their cry. When the just cry out, the Lord hears them, and He rescues them from all distress."

Blessed are those who observe what is right, who do always what is just.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom; all those who practice it possess virtue. His praise endures forever. "

"A king will reign justly and princes will rule rightly."


I am the light of the world, no one who follows me shall ever walk in darkness because he will possess the light of life.