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Yep but, since average is now looked upon as being normal, who is strange now becomes debatable.
Good point. We used to be right. Now we're called "right wing"
Jesus Christ is God in the flesh. If you deny that basic truth, you cannot be saved. God came to save you, you cannot be saved if you do not believe in Him as He is.
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Your post #110 does not take cognisance of what I have written to you are post #108.
You do the old trick of slicing up your opponent's post via the quote button, and then typing your dogma underneath each slice rather than actually taking cognisance of what is said and actually responding to it: you respond to the broad topic of each slice rather than the actual content of each slice.
So as I said, you simply don''t want to learn. Your knowledge is intermediate, and you wish to keep it at that level, parroting what you have been told by your mentors rather than actually cross-examining what you have been told.
I refer viewers who do want to learn, to post #108, and to my thread: "Jesus Christ our sacrifice, not our substitute".
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"To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus." Ro 3:26
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March 7th, 2013, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Colossians
Choleric,
Your post #110 does not take cognisance of what I have written to you are post #108.
I have no idea what post u speak of. I am on my phone and the post I am responding to is post #1. Not trying to be difficult but you should try posting the post you are having trouble with.
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You do the old trick of slicing up your opponent's post via the quote button, and then typing your dogma underneath each slice rather than actually taking cognisance of what is said and actually responding to it: you respond to the broad topic of each slice rather than the actual content of each slice.
It is my intention in breaking up your posts to make my response to each point you have attempted to make. If you feel I have done something intentionally misleading, you should post an example.
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So as I said, you simply don''t want to learn. Your knowledge is intermediate, and you wish to keep it at that level, parroting what you have been told by your mentors rather than actually cross-examining what you have been told.
I enjoy learning. It is by learning that I learned that Calvinism is heresy and goes against the clear teaching of scripture.
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I refer viewers who do want to learn, to post #108, and to my thread: "Jesus Christ our sacrifice, not our substitute".
It is also by learning that I realized Christ was made sin for me that I might be made the righteousness of God in Him. We switched my sin for His righteousness. I also learned that He died for my sins and not mine only but he sins if the whole world. I also learned that Christ died "for" the ungodly.
Do you disagree with the bible? Did Jesus die "for" the ungodly? Did Jesus die for the sins of the whole world? Anybody's sins?
You probably need to do some learning.
Jesus Christ is God in the flesh. If you deny that basic truth, you cannot be saved. God came to save you, you cannot be saved if you do not believe in Him as He is.
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It's not where you come from that really matters, but where you're going that truly counts.
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March 7th, 2013, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Colossians
Choleric,
Your post #110 does not take cognisance of what I have written to you are post #108.
You do the old trick of slicing up your opponent's post via the quote button, and then typing your dogma underneath each slice rather than actually taking cognisance of what is said and actually responding to it: you respond to the broad topic of each slice rather than the actual content of each slice.
So as I said, you simply don''t want to learn. Your knowledge is intermediate, and you wish to keep it at that level, parroting what you have been told by your mentors rather than actually cross-examining what you have been told.
I refer viewers who do want to learn, to post #108, and to my thread: "Jesus Christ our sacrifice, not our substitute".
Apparently you don't know how to use the program the way it's designed to be used. Choleric did NOTHING wrong. It would seem you like long posts so you can equivocate in them.
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The sky is always up, it is never down!!
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March 7th, 2013, 07:25 PM
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Apparently you don't know how to use the program the way it's designed to be used. Choleric did NOTHING wrong. It would seem you like long posts so you can equivocate in them.
Easy. Calvinism teaches Adam represented all (not just some) of the human race, while Christ is the representative for all (not just some) of the elect.
That's nice to know. And what does the Bible teach?
Total Misanthropy. Uncertain salvation. Luck of the draw. Irresistible damnation. Persecution of the saints.
It doesn't matter what he represented: he was the actual father of all mankind.
Yes, the Natural Head of all mankind, but he was not the Federal Head of all mankind. The serpents seed became his natural offspring, but they did not originally sin in him. Rom 5:14
14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
The them are the serpents seed ! They did not sin in Adam's Transgression ! They sinned in their Fathers Transgression.
That he sinned is clear here 1 Jn 3:8
He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning.
And scripture says he is a Father Jn 8:44
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Rom 2:28-29
28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.