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There is nothing in the New Testament that even comes close to Catholicism.
Already answered (see link just above).
Gaudium de veritate,
Cruciform
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"The very tradition, teaching, & faith of the Catholic Church from the beginning was preached by the Apostles & preserved by the Fathers. On this the Church was founded..." ~ St. Athanasius (4th cent.)
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The Bible reveals the "Historical Gospel" of Jesus Christ.
The Catholic church denys the "Historical Gospel" of Jesus Christ.
All one has to do is to read the first few chapters of the book of Romans and it becomes very clear that man is a wretched sinner that can only be justified by a righteousness that is totally and completely outside of himself, Romans 3:26.
The Roman Catholic church has not persevered. It is full of apostacies and false doctrines. But the scriptures and the "Historical Gospel" has.
"The very tradition, teaching, & faith of the Catholic Church from the beginning was preached by the Apostles & preserved by the Fathers. On this the Church was founded..." ~ St. Athanasius (4th cent.)
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Gaudium de veritate (Latin, "Delight in the truth")
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May 7th, 2012, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert Pate
With hundreds of denominations, many of them cults.
These "denominations and cults"---including your own favored non-Catholic tradition---have sprung up since the 16th-century Protestant "reformation," and are a direct result of its underlying presuppositions.
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No, the church has not persevered.
Your claim that Jesus Christ is a liar is noted.
Your belief in the ancient antichristian heresy known as Ecclesial Deism is noted.
From this point on, you simply have nothing to say worth listening to.
Gaudium de veritate,
Cruciform
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"The very tradition, teaching, & faith of the Catholic Church from the beginning was preached by the Apostles & preserved by the Fathers. On this the Church was founded..." ~ St. Athanasius (4th cent.)
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Slogan/motto:
Gaudium de veritate (Latin, "Delight in the truth")
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May 7th, 2012, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert Pate
The Bible exalts Jesus Christ and his Gospel.Your Catholic church degrades Christ and makes God the minister of sinners."For such a high became us, WHO IS HOLY, HARMLESS, UNDEFILED, SEPERATE FROM SINNERS, and made higher than the heavens," Hebrews 7:26.
You have here utterly failed to in any way refute my statements in Post #35. Therefore, my comments stand as posted.
Gaudium de veritate,
Cruciform
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"The very tradition, teaching, & faith of the Catholic Church from the beginning was preached by the Apostles & preserved by the Fathers. On this the Church was founded..." ~ St. Athanasius (4th cent.)
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Sinners cannot save sinners, nor can sinners save themselves.
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May 8th, 2012, 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by The Barbarian
Think of what kind of a Christian Pate could be, if he loved God half as much as he hates Catholics.
I don't hate anyone.
Someone has to give you the truth. Since the truth has been revealed to me in the Gospel. I guess that I have a responsibility to reveal it to others. To bad that you don't want it.
Are all men saved automatically?
If not...What is the difference, between you and someone who has NOT been saved? It is something you did or something Christ did?
Do you have to love Christ to be saved? Is loving God something you do on your own free will or something Christ makes you do?
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Originally Posted by Robert Pate
I don't have to do anything to be saved, Christ has done it all. I am justified by faith, plus nothing.
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I am justified by a faith that has become active by love (works) plus Catholicism.
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Sinners cannot save sinners, nor can sinners save themselves.
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May 21st, 2012, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by rbdeli
Are all men saved automatically?
If not...What is the difference, between you and someone who has NOT been saved? It is something you did or something Christ did?
Do you have to love Christ to be saved? Is loving God something you do on your own free will or something Christ makes you do?
The Gospel is "Good News" it is good news because we don't have to do anything to be saved. Even little children can be saved.
Jesus Christ as the new Adam and humanities representative has come into the world to do for us that which we are not capable of doing for ourselves. He is our savior He didn't come into the world to show us the way. HE IS THE WAY, John 14:6.
By his righteous, sinless, life he offers to God the Father a life of perfect obedience to the law. He fulfills God's Holy Law in our name and on our behalf, this is what justifies us, Romans 3:26.
Because he was without sin, he was able to atone for our sins and the sins of the whole world, 1 John 2:2. 1 John 4:14.
Its over! Its finished! Jesus Christ has reconciled the world unto God the Father, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19. Salvation has been provided for all of humanity, it is God's great free gift, Ephesians 2:8. This free gift of salvation is available to ALL, EVERYONE, ANYONE, who wants to be saved, Romans 10:13.
We receive God's great free gift of salvation by faith and faith alone. All of the work of redemption has been done. We rest in his work and not our own, Hebrews 4:10.
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