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Obamacare Is Not Fair - July 4th, 2012, 11:48 AM

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if my (Healthcare) plan is better than yours (so-called cadillac plan) I get penalized. Now how is that fair?
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My goodness, I never saw it that way before, you are right that is not fair.

Neither is the example your Lord gave you to follow

Luke 10:33-35

a Samaritan, who was on a journey, came upon him; and when he saw him, he felt compassion, and came to him and bandaged up his wounds, pouring oil and wine on them; and he put him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn and took care of him. On the next day he took out two denarii and gave them to the innkeeper and said, ‘Take care of him; and whatever more you spend, when I return I will repay you.’

Luke 12:48
...From everyone who has been given much, much will be required

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July 4th, 2012, 11:53 AM

Amazed that these people do not realized that not having sick and diseased untreated people around them is in their self interest.

The less sick people you are around the less chances you will get ill. If you are a single heterosexual male like myself this is important as I still go out with different women regularly.



   
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July 4th, 2012, 12:00 PM

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I still go out with different women regularly.
TMI (too much information)

You are not being helpful saying such things in this RED STATE forum.



   
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July 4th, 2012, 12:03 PM

Why not? I am not married and I am a single man. I am not a monk.



   
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July 4th, 2012, 12:11 PM

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Why not? I am not married and I am a single man. I am not a monk.
many RED STATE people behave much like you do but for them it is not acceptable to admit to it out loud.

I know, it makes no sense.



   
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Amazed that these people do not realized that not having sick and diseased untreated people around them is in their self interest.

The less sick people you are around the less chances you will get ill. If you are a single heterosexual male like myself this is important as I still go out with different women regularly.
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July 4th, 2012, 12:15 PM

The Insurance companies love it

because it Forces everybody to BUY INSURANCE.

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OBAMA is the Best considering that He cannot get anything done

with this Wall Street Government.
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July 4th, 2012, 12:32 PM

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OBAMA is the Best considering that He cannot get anything done with this Wall Street Government.
First obstacle - get the Healthcare Law thru Congress and sign it

DONE

Second obstacle - get the Healthcare Law upheld by the Supreme Court

DONE

Third obstacle - keep control of the Senate and stay in the White House for another term.

I'll get back to you about that on Wednesday 11/7/2012

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Between now and then try to find some comfort in the insight of Mike Savage.

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July 4th, 2012, 12:53 PM

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OBAMA is the Best considering that He cannot get anything done with this Wall Street Government.
How Obamacare is paid for

Title IX. Revenue Provisions

The Act makes health care more affordable for families and small business owners by providing the largest middle class tax cuts for health care in American history. Tens of millions of families will benefit from new tax credits which will help them reduce their premium costs and purchase insurance. Families making less than $250,000 will see their taxes cut by hundreds of billions of dollars.

When enacted, health reform is completely paid for and will reduce the deficit by more than one hundred billion dollars in the next ten years.

This title will be implemented by the U.S. Department of the Treasury.

TITLE IX--REVENUE PROVISIONS

Subtitle A--Revenue Offset Provisions
Sec. 9001. Excise tax on high cost employer-sponsored health coverage.
Sec. 9002. Inclusion of cost of employer-sponsored health coverage on W-2.
Sec. 9003. Distributions for medicine qualified only if for prescribed drug or insulin.
Sec. 9004. Increase in additional tax on distributions from HSAs and Archer MSAs not used for qualified medical expenses.
Sec. 9005. Limitation on health flexible spending arrangements under cafeteria plans.
Sec. 9006. Expansion of information reporting requirements.
Sec. 9007. Additional requirements for charitable hospitals.
Sec. 9008. Imposition of annual fee on branded prescription pharmaceutical manufacturers and importers.
Sec. 9009. Imposition of annual fee on medical device manufacturers and importers.
Sec. 9010. Imposition of annual fee on health insurance providers.
Sec. 9011. Study and report of effect on veterans health care.
Sec. 9012. Elimination of deduction for expenses allocable to Medicare Part D subsidy.
Sec. 9013. Modification of itemized deduction for medical expenses.
Sec. 9014. Limitation on excessive remuneration paid by certain health insurance providers.
Sec. 9015. Additional hospital insurance tax on high-income taxpayers.
Sec. 9016. Modification of section 833 treatment of certain health organizations.
Sec. 9017. Excise tax on elective cosmetic medical procedures.
Subtitle B--Other Provisions
Sec. 9021. Exclusion of health benefits provided by Indian tribal governments.
Sec. 9022. Establishment of simple cafeteria plans for small businesses.
Sec. 9023. Qualifying therapeutic discovery project credit.

TITLE X--STRENGTHENING QUALITY, AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE FOR ALL AMERICANS
Subtitle H--Provisions Relating to Title IX
Sec. 10901. Modifications to excise tax on high cost employer-sponsored health coverage.
Sec. 10902. Inflation adjustment of limitation on health flexible spending arrangements under cafeteria plans.
Sec. 10903. Modification of limitation on charges by charitable hospitals.
Sec. 10904. Modification of annual fee on medical device manufacturers and importers.
Sec. 10905. Modification of annual fee on health insurance providers.
Sec. 10906. Modifications to additional hospital insurance tax on high-income taxpayers.
Sec. 10907. Excise tax on indoor tanning services in lieu of elective cosmetic medical procedures.
Sec. 10908. Exclusion for assistance provided to participants in State student loan repayment programs for certain health professionals.
Sec. 10909. Expansion of adoption credit and adoption assistance programs.
H.R. 4872. Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010

Subtitle E--Provisions Relating to Revenue
Sec. 1401. High-cost plan excise tax.
Sec. 1402. Unearned income Medicare contribution.
Sec. 1403. Delay of limitation on health flexible spending arrangements under cafeteria plans.
Sec. 1404. Brand name pharmaceuticals.
Sec. 1405. Excise tax on medical device manufacturers.
Sec. 1406. Health insurance providers.
Sec. 1407. Delay of elimination of deduction for expenses allocable to medicare part D subsidy.
Sec. 1408. Elimination of unintended application of cellulosic biofuel producer credit.
Sec. 1409. Codification of economic substance doctrine and penalties.
Sec. 1410. Time for payment of corporate estimated taxes.

http://www.healthcare.gov/law/full/index.html



   
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This one is better



   
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