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June 10th, 2012, 06:12 PM

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Sorry, I won't be at the same judgement you face. I'll be at the Bema Seat of Christ....written in the Lamb's book, I am.

There is NO Condemnation for those in Christ Jesus.

John 5:24
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

We will see, because you preach a false Gospel !





Rom 2:28-29

28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:

29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
   
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June 11th, 2012, 03:05 AM

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False teaching !
No it isn't. Did you read Romans 5:1??

Did Jesus come to save the righteous??



   
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June 11th, 2012, 03:48 AM

"For I was an hungered, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungered, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal"
(Matthew 25:42-46).

Whose righteousness, and was it imputed, is spoken of in the above passage?



   
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June 11th, 2012, 03:32 PM

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We will see, because you preach a false Gospel !
That's right...I preach whosoever will may come, and you preach only a special pre-selected few will yanked up into glory.



   
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"For I was an hungered, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungered, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal"
(Matthew 25:42-46).

Whose righteousness, and was it imputed, is spoken of in the above passage?
Jesus Christ our Lord and God.

John 20:28
And Thomas answered and said unto him, My LORD and my God.



   
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June 11th, 2012, 03:48 PM

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Jesus Christ our Lord and God.

John 20:28
And Thomas answered and said unto him, My LORD and my God.

Whose?:

". . . . . . for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance." Matthew 9:13 (KJV)



   
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June 11th, 2012, 10:41 PM

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Whose?:

". . . . . . for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance." Matthew 9:13 (KJV)
Uh....so what are you trying to say?



   
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June 12th, 2012, 03:05 AM

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Uh....so what are you trying to say?
There is our righteousness that is by our faith IN Him, that God is looking by which we will be judged. In other words, for humankind it is by God simply asking the question: "What have you don't with what I have given you"? Now think for a moment about what all God has given us from creation for us to come to know Him. And then there is Jesus. What has the Christian done with Him? No, this is not about the righteousness of Jesus except for removing that which the righteous could not remove, i.e., the stain of Adam's transgression__to set righteous man free to do what God requires and that even from Himself He will perform it__Love TO Him, being the key.

"He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?" Micah 6:8 (KJV)

"Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works." 2 Corinthians 11:15 (KJV)




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July 29th, 2012, 07:02 PM

Something to know about Imputation. Imputation the thing itself makes no change internally to its subjects, just as when Christ had the sins of the Elect or the Sheep or the Church imputed to Him , it did not effect or infuse no sin into Him, Neither does His Righteousness Imputed as Per Rom 4:6

6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,

Imputed to the Elect infuse or effects any internal change in them; For its purely an Act of the Mind of God, reckoning it so based upon His own principles of Justice and Righteousness. For it, imputation is not an transeunt act of God but an immanent act of His Mind !





Rom 2:28-29

28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:

29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
   
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July 30th, 2012, 12:38 AM

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Something to know about Imputation. Imputation the thing itself makes no change internally to its subjects, just as when Christ had the sins of the Elect or the Sheep or the Church imputed to Him , it did not effect or infuse no sin into Him, Neither does His Righteousness Imputed as Per Rom 4:6

6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,

Imputed to the Elect infuse or effects any internal change in them; For its purely an Act of the Mind of God, reckoning it so based upon His own principles of Justice and Righteousness. For it, imputation is not an transeunt act of God but an immanent act of His Mind !
Are you saying He is actually tricking Himself, or just being somehow satisfied apart from any actual act. If I'm not mistaken to impute would entail synergy, there must be a recipient; otherwise it's actually not what its says it is, imputing. The righteousness must be obtained by the believer in order for it to be genuine. I'm not sure of the premise for your theory, if it's based from your perception of our sin to Christ; it says He who knew no sin became sin for us...do with that as you will. The key is to trust God at his word, not that we fully understand it. It may sound rational enough, though the actual substance, the reality of the imputation, would probably blow our minds. You don't need to make scripture that is difficult to fathom, logical. You need faith to accept it for what it is, then it's no longer up to you, but to God.







Crown Him, ye martyrs of your God, who from His altar call;
Hail Him Who saves you by His grace, and crown Him Lord of all!
Let every tribe and every tongue before Him prostrate fall;
The God incarnate, Man divine, and crown Him Lord of all!
"Apart from me you can do nothing."~Jesus


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July 30th, 2012, 06:04 AM

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I am saying what I said. Where do you see anything about tricking oneself in the post ?





Rom 2:28-29

28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:

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I am saying what I said. Where do you see anything about tricking oneself in the post ?
That's not all that I asked, and I was searching for the reasoning behind your conclusion, and how God would go about carrying this out without contradicting what is written. I saw what you posted, that's why I asked.







Crown Him, ye martyrs of your God, who from His altar call;
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