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Mat 7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
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August 8th, 2012, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Cross Reference
Jesus Christ claims that He can.
What say you? How is it to be "fully" accomplished?
At the resurrection it will be fully but until then it is partial.
Jesus exampled the life of a present day believer up to His baptism and exampled the reign of God through Him after His baptism to the end of His ministry.
Gods reign is from time to time in the present day believer too.
At the resurrection it will be fully but until then it is partial.
Jesus exampled the life of a present day believer up to His baptism and exampled the reign of God through Him after His baptism to the end of His ministry.
Gods reign is from time to time in the present day believer too.
LA
"I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me." Galatians 2:20 (KJV)
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Mat 7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
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August 9th, 2012, 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Cross Reference
"I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me." Galatians 2:20 (KJV)
This was Paul speaking but he took some time to get to that.
This was Paul speaking but he took some time to get to that.
LA
Why not quit speculating to support your denial of things? How much time did he take?? And what does it matter unless you know Gal.2:20 to be the aim of ALL 'serious' Christians__and it be for that reason Paul wrote his letters?
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Mat 7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
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August 9th, 2012, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Cross Reference
Why not quit speculating to support your denial of things? How much time did he take?? And what does it matter unless you know Gal.2:20 to be the aim of ALL 'serious' Christians__and it be for that reason Paul wrote his letters?
The time to get there matters because you presume your life is only by the faith of the Son of God and it is clearly not yet.
Joh 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
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Mat 7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
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August 9th, 2012, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Cross Reference
Clearly?? More conjecture, speculation based upon a foundation insufficient for knowledge to take root..
As for getting there: it is the process of becoming that is the end of it.
Do you even know what the process is; what it entails?? I don't think so__you can only conjecture on that as well. .
I do know, but what I have said is not conjecture.
The very fact that you use such words as conjecture and speculation as an answer to what I have said is sufficent evidence that you have hardly begun to put on Christ, and every thread you post on is evidence that you are full of yourself.
What say you? How is it to be "fully" accomplished?
Romans 8:28-30 (NASB)
And we know that God causes all things
to work together for good to those who love God,
to those who are called according to His purpose.
For those whom He foreknew,
He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son,
so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren;
and these whom He predestined,
He also called;and these whom He called,
He also justified; and these whom He justified,
He also glorified.
I explained my interpretation in another thread of yours here
Crown Him, ye martyrs of your God, who from His altar call;
Hail Him Who saves you by His grace, and crown Him Lord of all!
Let every tribe and every tongue before Him prostrate fall;
The God incarnate, Man divine, and crown Him Lord of all!
"Apart from me you can do nothing."~Jesus
Phil. 3:8 (ESV)
Romans 8:28-30 (NASB)
And we know that God causes all things
to work together for good to those who love God,
to those who are called according to His purpose.
For those whom He foreknew,
He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son,
so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren;
and these whom He predestined,
He also called;and these whom He called,
He also justified; and these whom He justified,
He also glorified.
I explained my interpretation in another thread of yours here
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Ecclesiastes 10:10 If the ax is dull, And one does not sharpen the edge, Then he must use more strength; But wisdom brings success.
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August 10th, 2012, 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Cross Reference
I replied to this over there.
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I do know, but what I have said is not conjecture.
The very fact that you use such words as conjecture and speculation as an answer to what I have said is sufficent evidence that you have hardly begun to put on Christ, and every thread you post on is evidence that you are full of yourself.
LA
You should reply to this now. It's more important anyway.
I do know, but what I have said is not conjecture.
The very fact that you use such words as conjecture and speculation as an answer to what I have said is sufficent evidence that you have hardly begun to put on Christ, and every thread you post on is evidence that you are full of yourself.
LA
I know the Word of God to know that you are off base. My threads are meant to challenge folk life you who say they "are" but evidence, by their manipulation of His word to their mind, "they can't be", __because they have no *"new birth" of the Holy Spirit in how they handle the scriptures. You fit that bill.
*". . . . he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost" John 20:22 (KJV)
Who did Jesus "breath upon the new birth from above" but His disciples who "knew" Him and were with Him and loved on Him for 3 1/2 years before He did so to __ indwell them. Sorry, I don't see that in your replies. What I do see, by your denials, is misguided understanding you, no doubt received to your thinking from some misguided author.
For one to be so sure of what one does not "know" and unwilling to be adjusted, is always of the flesh. You are of the many here displaying such a disposition. If you have followed my discourse with Tutten Linnet you should understand what I am getting at. Obfuscation. Denial. Irrational rationale., etc.
With regards to this reply, I know what to expect from you so, bring it on.
Nevertheless, I tell you the truth: it is to your advantage that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you. But if I go, I will send him to you. And when he comes, he will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment: concerning sin, because they do not believe in me; concerning righteousness, because I go to the Father, and you will see me no longer; concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.
“I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come. He will glorify me, for he will take what is mine and declare it to you. All that the Father has is mine; therefore I said that he will take what is mine and declare it to you. John 16:7-15
Nevertheless, I tell you the truth: it is to your advantage that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you. But if I go, I will send him to you. And when he comes, he will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment: concerning sin, because they do not believe in me; concerning righteousness, because I go to the Father, and you will see me no longer; concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.
“I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come. He will glorify me, for he will take what is mine and declare it to you. All that the Father has is mine; therefore I said that he will take what is mine and declare it to you. John 16:7-15
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